Changes are in the air - a podcast by SA Institute of Race Relations

Gabriel and Nick discuss a little more about the Depp and Heard trial, and then move on to talk about the recent by-elections and how they suggest the age of the ANC is drawing to an end. They also discuss the criminal accusations made about President Cyril Ramaphosa and what these might mean for the country.



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Gabriel: Johannesburg Philharmonic Orchestra

Further episodes of 2 Crickets In A Thorn Tree

Further podcasts by SA Institute of Race Relations

Website of SA Institute of Race Relations