Podcasts by 200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement for Pastors of Small Churches

Season 03 Episode 06 - What I Learned From My Own Commentary On Philippians by Jeannine Brown from 2022-02-22T22:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Dr. Jeannine Brown from Bethel Seminary in Minnesota about her soon to be released commentary on Philippians. Jeannine talks about the things that surprised her, inspire...

Season 3 Episode 05 - Gathering Believers Without a Building - Church Planting with Alex Rousseau from 2022-02-17T20:00

Alex and Alyssa are church planters in Lincoln NE with a uniquely interesting approach. People like Alex and Alyssa are going to change the world, one community at a time. The Millennial and Gen...

Season 03 Episode 04 - My Completely Zoom Church with Ava Green from 2022-02-07T22:00

Jeff and Jonny reflect on Ava Green's ingenuity and improv as she takes her church completely portable, on Zoom, yet still meets hours each week with them! This episode will get your creati...

Season 03 Episode 03 - Jonny Craig on Digital Ministry and Being Married to an Author from 2022-02-03T00:00

Jeff and Jonny return LIVE for the first time in 8 months! We catch up on Jonny's digital ministry, talk Carey Neiuwhof's future series, small church resources 9 years ago and today, a...

Season 03 Episode 02 - Small Church Pastors Need Friends with Scott Dalen from 2022-01-25T23:00

Scott Dalen, a small church pastor near Omaha, Nebraska joins Jeff on this episode to talk about the new normal, the liturgical year and Lectionary, and how he maintains life-giving relationship...

Season 03 - Episode 01 - The Pastor's Greatest Need? from 2022-01-17T23:00

After an 8-month break, Jeff begins Season 03 of the 200churches Podcast. Jeff and Jonny will be bringing new content for a new year! Today, Jeff speaks to pastors about what Lifeway Research ha...

Season 02 Episode 10 - Leonard Sweet to Pastors: Love Your Zip Code! from 2021-05-05T23:00

Leonard Sweet joins Jeff on the podcast today! They talk about loving your ZIP code well around your local church, plus a bunch more! You can find more of Leonard Sweet at from 2020-12-05T00:00

Larry Fowler is the founder of https://www.legacycoalition.com. You'll find some new thoughts and opportunities for outreach and ministry in yo...

Season 2 Episode 04 - 8 Innovations To Leading Millennials with Benjamin Windle from 2020-11-17T01:00

Jeff talks with Benjamin Windle about his White Paper on 8 innovations to leading Millennials! You can get Ben's White Paper on this topic at his we...

BONUS - Episode 002 of the Coaching For Pastors Podcast with Greg Atkinson! from 2020-10-20T23:00

Greg Atkinson, from FirstImpressionsConference.com joins Jeff and has an unbelievable 50% off discount for 200churches listeners t...

S2E03 - Black Lives Matter, Ministry, and a Nation's Conversation with Moe Dixon from 2020-10-01T01:00

Moe Dixon, a church planting ministry coordinator in New York City, joins Jeff on the podcast today to talk about race and how pastor's mi...

S2E02 - What If 2020 Leads Us Out Of Ministerial Egypt? with Mandy Smith from 2020-09-22T23:00

Mandy Smith, lead pastor of University Christian Church in Cincinnati OH joins the guys to talk about how our pining for "bac...

S2E01 - Deep Love In Spite Of Differing Doctrine with Dave Jacobs from 2020-09-17T22:00

Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com and the Small Church Pastor Facebook group joins Jeff and Jonny to share a very personal message. As believe...

Season 2 Episode - Preview from 2020-08-06T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about where they are at in the summer of 2020, and what Season 2, which starts in September 2020, will be about. It's a fun conversation about pastoral life in 2020. So ...

Episode 350 - Church Growth Guru Gary McIntosh Speaks To Small Church Pastors from 2020-07-21T17:00

Gary McIntosh from https://www.churchgrowthnetwork.com joins Jeff to talk about pastoral ministry, and some of the hiccups of megachurch pastors holding church growth conferences for small churc...

Episode 349 - How Pastors Manage Suffering, Grow, and Finish Well with Ken Roberts from 2020-05-27T01:00

Ken Roberts, from https://www.kenlroberts.com joins us to talk about suffering and struggle, growth, survival, and finishing well as pastors. This is so...

Episode 348 - How Pastor Lyle changed his health, lost 77 pounds, and you can too! from 2020-05-20T02:00

Lyle Parker joins Jeff to talk about his health transformation - to give other pastors hope! Lyle was pushing 300 pounds, in pain, tired, and depressed. That was just seven months ago. Today he ...

Episode 347 - The Gospels as Stories with Jeannine Brown from 2020-05-06T04:00

Jeff and Jonny talk again with Dr. Jeannine Brown, author of https://www.smallchurchpastor.com to talk about being the church an...

Episode 345 - Quadrant Two Opportunities with Jeff Keady from 2020-03-22T20:00

Jeff shares how he plans to approach the coming months and how you can too!

Monday Morning Pastor from 2020-03-16T08:00

Special short episode. Personal words from Jeff. 

Episode 344 - Pastoral Leadership in a Time of Crisis Part 2 with Jeff&Jonny from 2020-03-13T16:00

Jeff & Jonny talk about doing ministry in light of the social upheaval with the Coronavirus pandemic. Pastors have a great opportunity that we should seize - we have been trying to convince ...

Episode 343 - Pastoral Leadership in a Time of Crisis from 2020-03-12T01:00

Jeff speaks from the heart about the opportunity pastors have as they lead in the midst of the Coronavirus crisis.

Episode 342 - Ditch Disappointment and Learn To Dream Again with Josh Gagnon from 2020-02-21T00:00

Josh Gagnon from https://www.nextlevel.church joins us to talk about how to recover the ability to dream big dreams for God again - like when you were ...

Episode 341 - Wise Pastors Seek Help with Ian Borkent from 2020-02-17T00:00

Ian Borkent is the pastor of a C3 Church in the Netherlands and talks with Jeff about his experience over the last 13 years taking a church of 60 singles a...

Episode 340 - Ideas For Fresh Expressions of Your Church with Chris Morton from 2020-02-08T03:00

Chris Morton from www.freshexpressionsus.org/ joins Jeff today to talk about innovative ways for church growth and church planting for the 21st century. Jeff and Jonny recorded in person for thi...

Episode 339 - Unvangelism with Garry Poole from 2020-01-31T23:00

Garry Poole from OneLife Advisors joins the guys to talk about an approach to outreach that Jeff terms "unvangelism". Anyone in any church can take this approach to reaching people wit...

Episode 338 - Wrestling the Assimilation Monster with Jeff and Jonny from 2019-12-30T21:00

Jeff and Jonny are live in person with each other for this last episode of 2019! Assimilation is the monster pastors must wrestle with on a weekly basis, unless we delegate to someone more capab...

Episode 337 - Leadership Lessons For Pastors From An MK Turned International Missionary with Dave... from 2019-11-28T00:00

This is a long form conversation with a great leader and international worker (missionary) who shares leadership lessons from a lifetime of missions and ministry. Lessons from growing up an MK a...

Special Episode - 2 Minute Leadership Lesson for Pastors from Episode 337! from 2019-11-27T21:00

Three leadership dynamics that make for a healthy church - observations from a veteran missionary who has the unique opportunity to visit many churches while on home assignment. Here is his pers...

Episode 336 - N.T. Wright On His Future Plans, Brexit, and Small Church Ministry from 2019-11-05T03:00

Dr. N.T. "Tom" Wright joins Jeff and Jonny again to talk about his heart for Scripture, how he practices devotions, thinks about spiritual formation, views Brexit and cultural upheaval...

Episode 335 - Bivocational Ministry with Jake Fierberg from 2019-10-30T00:00

Pastor Jake Fierberg is a bivocational pastor in Aurora CO. He talks with Jeff and Jonny about the blessings and challenges of working a secular job and pastoring a small congregation. This is a...

Episode 334 - The Art of Neighboring with Dave Runyon from 2019-10-02T00:00

Jeff and Jonny speak with Dave Runyon, the author of The Art of Neighboring. You can find Dave's work at www.artofneighboring.com. This was a fun episode for the guys to record LIVE with Da...

Episode 333 - Dynamic Advice For Effective Visitor Follow Up with Jon Dunwell from 2019-09-05T02:00

Jon Dunwell has been in ministry for 25 years from Student to Senior Pastor in churches small and large. He is a John Maxwell Certified Speaker, Trainer, and Coach. Jon talks with Jeff in this e...

Episode 332 - One Pastor's Unbelievable Health Transformation Story with Scott Buell from 2019-08-28T00:00

Pastor Scott Buell was tired, hopeless, out of shape, overweight, and frustrated with himself. He could not manage his diet or health. After listening to Episode 332 of 200churches, he took acti...

Episode 331 - Are You Running On All 8 Cylinders? from 2019-08-21T21:00

Jeff reviews 8 areas of our lives and ministry that we can evaluate as we enter into a new church year. Jonny gives his input on the front and back of the episode as the better looking Millennia...

Episode 330 - Redemption Is From The LORD with Gabe from 2019-07-31T12:00

Jeff met Gabe in San Salvador, El Salvador's capital city. They quickly became friends and Jeff was certain that Gabe had a message for our 200churches pastors. So late one night they sat d...

Episode 329 - A Church Progress Report from the Yukon Territory with Jeremy Norton from 2019-07-27T01:00

Jeremy Norton, pastor of MountainView Church in Whitehorse, Yukon CANADA joins us after two years more of ministry to give u...

Episode 328 - How Pastors Grow with Dan Reiland from 2019-07-15T07:00

Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Atlanta GA, joins us yet again to share wisdom, inspiration, education, and perspective on what pastors d...

Episode 327 - One Year Citylight KC Church Plant Progress with Jason Wilson and Eric Carpenter from 2019-07-11T01:00

Jeff and Jonny hang out with Jason and Eric, co-pastors of the Citylight KC Church plant in Kansas City MO. This is a one year check up on their minist...

Episode 326 - We Can Lead Like Jesus Led with Mark Strauss and Justin Irving from 2019-06-28T01:00

Strauss and Irving joined Jeff and Jonny rece...

Episode 325 - Rethinking Communication In Your 200church with Phil Bowdle from 2019-06-07T01:00

A great conversation with Phil Bowdle, Creative Arts Pastor at West Ridge Church in NW Atlanta, and author of Rethink Communication - A Playbook to Clarify and Communicate Everything in your Chu...

Episode 324 - Small Churches and HOPE with Rob Douglas from 2019-06-01T00:00

Rob Douglas, denominational leader and pastoral coach, joins Jeff to talk about what impacts small church pastors, and just a little bit about how we can encourage one another in ministry, as Je...

Episode 323 - The Thrill of the Launch with Josh Park from 2019-05-17T22:00

Josh Park from BranchLife.Church talks with Jeff and Jonny about the adventure of launching a church, with all the prayer and work that goes with it! J...

Episode 322 - Wisdom From A Seasoned Pastor with Bill Larson from 2019-05-10T00:00

Pastor Bill Larson spent over 40 years in full time pastoral ministry, then led and cared for pastors for years. He is a pastor's pastor, and Jeff got to sit down and talk with him about hi...

Episode 321 - What It Means To Love Anyway with Kayla Craig from 2019-04-18T00:00

Jonny is joined by a special guest--his wife!--to talk about her work for Preemptive Love and the meaning behind their slogan "Love Anyway.&...

Episode 320 - Sometimes Pastors Need the Most Help with Jeff Keady from 2019-04-11T00:00

Jeff shares personally what he has learned over the past six months, and challenges pastors to take steps toward healing and wholeness, in whatever areas they need to. Maybe it's drugs, por...

Episode 319 - Serving At Saddleback with Henty Van Der Merwe from 2019-04-05T00:00

Henty Van Der Merwe joins Jeff and Jonny for this delightful episode! Henty is an Executive Assistant to Pastor Rick Warren at Saddleback Church and he shar...

Episode 318 - N.T. Wright Encourages Small Church Pastors from 2019-03-27T00:00

Our most downloaded episode of the 200churches Podcast is pulled from the vault and re-aired on this 318th episode! The Rev. Dr. N.T. Wright from Scotland joins Jeff and Jonny to talk all things...

Episode 317 - Building Hope For The Broken with Todd Grant from 2019-03-21T00:00

Todd Grant from the Watts Powerhouse Church in South Los Angeles joins Jeff to talk about the work of God in his urban ministry. Gangs, brok...

Episode 316 - Ministry - Not Programs&Curriculum but Communication&Relationships from 2019-03-14T00:00

A classic Jeff & Jonny episode! Jonny postulates a foundational thought on ministry and then he and Jeff dive deeper into it. Generally about what ministry is and isn't. This is a fun, ...

Episode 315 - One More Episode On Change Management in the Church from 2019-03-06T00:00

Dave Jacobs from www.smallchurchpastor.com joins us to talk about the importance and process of leading change in your church. Dave was live in our Des Moines studio with Jeff and Jonny and this...

Bonus Episode 01 - A Health Journey Update from Three Pastors from 2019-02-23T00:00

Jeff talks with three pastors who started their health journeys just a month ago, and they share their experience and progress. It's just not as hard or complicated as you might think it is...

Episode 314 - How A Young Pastor Views Ministry with Derek Ambroson from 2019-02-21T00:00

Jeff has a conversation with Derek Ambroson, a bi-vocational youth pastor from Minneapolis MN. He pastors at Roseville Baptist Church with his lead pastor. Jeff and Derek talk about how a young ...

Episode 313 - How To Lead and Love Negative People with Dan Reiland from 2019-02-13T00:00

Dan Reiland, Exec. Pastor of www.12stone.org joins the guys after a two year hiatus to talk about leadership and negative people. He shares 5 helpful approac...

Episode 312 - How God Saved Me And Is Using Me with Joe Petrone from 2019-02-08T00:00

Joe Petrone from www.orchardalliance.com, shares his journey of coming to faith, then experiencing huge disappointment in two of his first three churches he attended. Successful, driven, and pro...

Episode 311 - Ministry Coaching Rocket Fuel with John Finkelde from 2019-01-30T00:00

John Finkelde from www.growahealthychurch.com joins Jeff to talk to pastors about what he sees as the challenges that face them today. From changing culture to changing tech to burnout, he offer...

Episode 310 - Pastor, What's Your Plan For Personal Growth In 2019? from 2019-01-23T00:00

Jeff has a solo episode about what it takes to NOT let the ministry of your church overtake your personal leadership capacity. Don't let people say about you, "the church just grew bey...

Episode 309 - How Vision Fuels Your Church with Dave Jacobs from 2019-01-18T00:00

Dave Jacobs from www.smallchurchpastor.com talks with Jeff and Jonny about the importance of maintaining Vision in your 200church! Dave actually joined the guys LIVE in Des Moines in the studio ...

Episode 308 - Focus On Your Strengths In Small Church Ministry with Tyler Ramsbey from 2019-01-09T00:00

Tyler Ramsbey is a small church pastor who is confident and humble. He focuses on his strengths and is not fazed by his weaknesses. Jeff and Jonny pick his brain about small town ministry, churc...

Episode 307 - The Pastor's Personal Life with Rob Tarnoviski from 2019-01-04T08:00

A great conversation with a veteran pastor about what it takes for a pastor to stay healthy in body, mind, and spirit! Rob and Jeff have been best friends for 35 years, and have tracked together...

Episode 306 - How Not To Be A Church Of Us vs. Them with David Fitch from 2018-12-25T21:00

David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago talks with the guys about leading as a pastor in a culture that wants to pit our people against each other socially and politically, and how to redu...

Episode 305 - How Jeff Lost Almost 50 Pounds and YOU Can Too with David Bush from 2018-12-18T21:00

David Bush joins Jeff to talk about the Habits of Health Jeff has been adopting in his life, to help him lose almost 50 pounds, eat healthy, exercise, pursue his goals, and boost his energy for ...

Episode 304 - A Truckload of Pastoral Encouragement and Hope with John Lynch from 2018-12-14T00:00

John Lynch is the co-author of The Cure - What if God isn't who you think he is, and neither are you. He is also one of the founders of www.trueface.org Listen

Episode 303 - A Ministry Leadership MasterClass with Rob Tarnoviski from 2018-12-06T00:00

Pastor Rob Tarnoviski from www.bchurch.tv joined Jeff to talk all about leadership, ministry growth, and how to lead a thriving, outward-focused church...

Episode 302 - Spiritually Flourishing - Nurturing the Pastor's Heart with Ken Shigematsu from 2018-11-28T00:00

Ken Shigematsu, Senior Pastor of Tenth Church in Vancouver, BC Canada joins the guys to share how pastors can restore their souls for Jesus and for minis...

Episode 301 - Church Planting in the Suburbs and How Your Zip Code Informs Your Ministry with Ashley Hales from 2018-11-20T23:00

Ashley Hales and her husband are planting a church in a Southern California suburb. Ashley talks to us about thoughts from her book, The Unstuck Group, joins the guys on Episode 300 to talk about what millennial pa...

Episode 299 - Stress Free Bi-Vocational Ministry with Danny Garrido from 2018-10-23T23:00

Danny Garrido is a bi-vocational pastor of a Colorado Springs bilingual church! Danny has been at it for almost 18 years and his church...

Episode 298 - Creating Margin&Reclaiming Life with Dave Jacobs from 2018-10-16T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are joined LIVE in the studio by Dave Jacobs, from www.smallchurchpastor.com and talk with him about reclaiming our lives by creating margin in our ministry worlds. So encouraging...

Episode 297 - Every Sunday You Need A Sermon with Jeff and Jonny from 2018-10-09T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk about the weekly mandate of sermon prep, how they approach it, and how they think about preaching in today's culture. This is a start of the conversation, which will lik...

Episode 296 - Big Change Small Groups&Small Churches with Heather Zempel from 2018-10-02T23:00

Heather Zempel from National Community Church in Wash. D.C. joins Jeff to talk about small group ministry, her leadership, and her experiences moving from the marketplace into ministry. Heather&apo...

Episode 295 - What is the 95Network? With Dale Sellers from 2018-09-27T23:00

Dale Sellers is the Executive Director of www.95network.org and a lover of small churches and small church pastors! This is a full, fun, and encouraging episode, and Jeff stayed up so late to edit ...

Episode 294 - Mission Passion In The First Person with Norma V from 2018-09-18T23:00

Veteran missionary Norma V speaks with Jeff about her ascent into foreign missions and her heart for soul formation and discipleship in her mission context. She speaks to small church pastors about...

Episode 293 - Encouraging and Valuing Small Churches (with Chris Vitarelli) from 2018-09-11T23:00

Jeff is joined by Chris Vitarelli--small church pastor, conference leader, and all around good guy--to talk about the Small Church Big Deal Conference in Fenton, Michigan. Jeff and Chris also talk ...

Episode 292 - Who Is Your Model For Ministry Leadership? With Ray Hollenbach from 2018-09-04T23:00

Ray Hollenbach from www.studentsofjesus.com joins the guys to talk about ministry leadership - the good, bad, and ugly. Ray talks about where we get our leadership model from for our pastoral minis...

Episode 291 - Unsticking Your Stuck Church with Tony Morgan from The Unstuck Group from 2018-08-28T23:00

Tony Morgan, from www.theunstuckgroup.com, joins Jeff and Jonny LIVE and in the flesh as the three of them converse on what it means to get your church back on mission, back on the road to reaching...

Episode 290 - Sex Trafficking&Homes of Hope with Al Henson from 2018-08-21T23:00

Al Henson, from www.compassionatehope.org, joins the guys to talk about his ministry's work in helping to rescue children, infants, and young people from the dangers of sex trafficking in Sout...

Episode 289 - Willowcreek, Hybels, Justice, and Not Piling On from 2018-08-14T23:00

This is Jonny and Jeff's take on how us pastors might approach the awful events that have unfolded at Willowcreek. How do we process and think about all this? Jeff and Jonny debrief each other...

Episode 288: How and Why To Have Crucial Conversations (with Pam Dykstra) from 2018-08-06T23:00

Jonny is joined by his friend Pam Dykstra (who happens to be a Master Trainer with VitalSmarts) and they talk about what Crucial Conversations are, why we avoid them, and how to have them well in o...

Episode 287 - Beginning Ministry At Half Time with Jim Drake from 2018-07-31T23:00

Jim Drake IS... a small church pastor! He pastors in Bluefield VA and did not start until after age 40, so beginning ministry in the second half. This is his story... from the Air Force to the pulp...

Special Episode--An Invitation to be Encouraged in Your Ministry from 2018-07-23T23:00

Jonny is joined by his wife, Kayla, to talk about a special event that YOU are invited to!

Episode 286 - Embracing Love in the Chaotic World of Addiction with Vinny Provenzano from 2018-07-18T23:00

Pastor Vinny shares from his heart what it's like to have a family member involved in addiction. Too many families know the pain and suffering associated with mental health and addiction issue...

Episode 285 - Staffing Principles and Strategies That Work Even In Small Churches with Sarah Bouma from the Unstuck Group from 2018-07-10T23:00

Sarah Bouma works with Tony Morgan and his Unstuck Group, (www.theunstuckgroup.com) coaching churches in the areas of staffing and structure. She was recently at Jeff's church and was so graci...

Episode 284 - Q&A With Jeff&Dave Jacobs Part 2 from 2018-07-03T23:00

Episode 284 is the 2nd half of a conversation Jeff had with Dave Jacobs, from www.smallchurchpastor.com, where they answer questions from Dave's Small Church Pastor Facebook group. Jonny joins...

Episode 283 - Your Questions Answered Part 1 with Dave Jacobs&Jeff Keady from 2018-06-26T23:00

Dave Jacobs from www.smallchurchpastor.com and the Small Church Pastor Facebook Group gathered group members' questions and then he and Jeff each take a whack at them, giving them their best s...

Episode 282 - From Water to Wine to Wisdom with Derek Vreeland from 2018-06-19T23:00

Derek Vreeland is the Discipleship Pastor at Word of Life Church in St. Joseph MO. His pastor, Brian Zahnd, was our guest on episode 202, and now Derek joins us a mere 80 weeks later! Practical wis...

Episode 281 - This Small Church Pastor Is Pastor To A President - with Brandon Patterson from 2018-06-12T23:00

Brandon Patterson is a new, young pastor. He heard Jeff & Jonny on Carey Nieuwhof's Leadership Podcast, episode 99 - and sent us a message. As he often does, Jeff replied and connected wit...

Episode 280 - What's on My Mind with Jonny Craig from 2018-06-04T23:00

PIcking up where Jeff left off last week, Jonny shares some things that are on his mind like family, special needs ministry, church decline, and worship services. He also shares a book he recently ...

Episode 279 - What's On My Mind with Jeff Keady from 2018-05-29T23:00

Jeff records a solo episode and creates the first "What's On My Mind" episode. He and Jonny have been wanting to create some solo episodes just to speak personally to small church pa...

Episode 278 - Developing Fully Formed Followers of Jesus with Dan Den Boer from 2018-05-21T23:00

Jonny is joined by Northwestern College professor (and friend) Dan Den Boer to talk about formation and the role of the church in developing Christ followers. The conversation swerves into topics l...

Episode 277 - From Pastoring Small Churches to Chaplaincy (With John Ottley) from 2018-05-14T23:00

Jonny is joined by John Ottley--small church pastor turned hospital chaplain to talk about what he has learned over his 30-year ministry career and what he is learning as he begins a new career as ...

Episode 276 - A CityLight Church Planting Adventure with Jason Wilson&Eric Carpenter from 2018-05-08T23:00

On today’s episode we are joined by Jason Wilson, from Citylight Church in Council Bluffs IA and Eric Carpenter from Christ Community Church in Omaha Nebraska as they share their plans to co plant ...

Episode 275 - Candid Thoughts From A College President with Joel Wiggins from 2018-05-01T23:00

Dr. Joel Wiggins, President of Crown College in the Twin Cities of Minnesota talks with transparency and candor about his life as a small church pastor, and the challenge of educating pastors for t...

Episode 274 - From Legalism and Depression to Grace and Church Planting - Derek Levendusky's Story from 2018-04-24T23:00

When Derek Levendusky started his week on Sunday morning, he had no idea he would be our guest from episode 274. Toiling away in a new church in Western New York, Derek is everything that is good a...

Episode 273 - How To Connect New People To The Life Of Your Church with Greg Curtis from 2018-04-17T23:00

Greg Curtis, Director of Assimilation at Eastside Christian Church in Anaheim CA joins Jeff to talk about how small churches should assimilate first time attenders. This is SO, SO practical. You wi...

Episode 272 - The Healthy, Effective, Life-Changing, Kingdom Advancing Small Church with Karl Vaters from 2018-04-10T23:00

Karl "the Shark" Vaters from NewSmallChurch.com joins us again after a 79-week span since his last appearance. We can't believe it's been that long - but he's back to talk ...

Episode 271 - Talking Kingdom Ministry with Reggie McNeal - Part 2 from 2018-04-03T23:00

Jeff and Jonny both talk with Reggie McNeal, author of The Present Future and Kingdom Collaborators - Eight Signature Practices of Leaders Who Turn the World Upside Down. This is part 2 from Episod...

Episode 270 - Small Town Summits - Part of the Larger Small Church Movement from 2018-03-27T23:00

Stephen Witmer and David Pinckney are the founders of www.SmallTownSummits.com! They love to talk about pastoral ministry in small places, and rural places. They are bringing pastors together for e...

Episode 269 - How To Start A Safety And Security Ministry In Your Small Church with Bob Johnson from 2018-03-20T23:00

Church security expert, Bob Johnson, from Christ's Church of the Valley https://www.ccv.church/ in Peoria, AZ joins the guys to talk about how a small church can have an effective security min...

Episode 268 - Talking Kingdom Ministry with Reggie McNeal from 2018-03-13T23:00

This is a truncated conversation with Reggie McNeal, the entire conversation is a couple episodes in the future, but in this one we intro Reggie's book - Kingdom Collaborators, and then talk a...

Episode 267: Caring for Special Needs People in Your Small Church (with the Special Friends Team from Willow Creek) from 2018-03-06T23:00

Jonny is joined by Bep Reeves to talk with Pat Cimo, and Jenni & Paul Von Tobel from Willow Creek Church about their Special Friends ministry. Special Friends ministers to folks with special ne...

Episode 266: Staffing Solutions for Your Small Church (with Dave Miller) from 2018-02-26T23:00

Dave Miller from Slingshot Group and Leadership Pathway joins us to talk about developing the next generation of church leadership and staffing issues facing all sized churches.

Episode 265 - A Vicar&Archdeacon Speaks on Healthy Cultures, Teams,&Systems with Helen Phillips from 2018-02-20T23:00

The Venerable Helen Phillips, Archdeacon of Frankston and Parish Vicar in the Anglican Church, from Victoria, Australia joins us for a lively and interesting conversation about small church ministr...

Episode 264 - Theology, Small Churches, and the Holy Spirit with Cherith Nordling from 2018-02-13T23:00

Dr. Cherith Nordling, Assoc. Professor of Theology at Northern Seminary in Chicago is on again with Jeff and Jonny, to blow your mind and regale you with spiritual stories. Get ready, it's gon...

Episode 263 - My First 3 Years In Ministry with Marc Shefelton from 2018-02-08T23:00

Jeff talks with Marc Shefelton, pastor of Buffalo Prairie Church in Illinois, about his first three years in ministry. This is a classic small church pastor episode! Jonny joins Jeff for commentary...

Episode 262 - What a Pastor's Spouse Wants You to Know.mp3 from 2018-01-30T23:00

Jonny's wife Kayla Craig, joins us to talk about life as a young ministry spouse - replete with four children and a part time job! Demands on families of pastors can be steep - and Kayla talks...

Episode 261 - Size Doesn't Matter - Healthy Pastors Produce Healthy Churches with John Hardy from 2018-01-23T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with John Hardy, from Perth Australia. John is a business and ministry coach, as well as a pastor's husband! John talks with us about his experience from almost 40 years of...

Episode 260 - Five Focus Areas For Every Pastor - A Conversation With John Finkelde from 2018-01-16T23:00

John Finkelde from www.growahealthychurch.com joins us for our 5-Year Anniversary episode! #260! John coaches and consults with pastors and churches and is an all around great person! We love him!!

Episode 259: The Intersection of Grief and Vocation--A Conversation with Bep Reeves from 2018-01-09T23:00

Pastor Bep is a Children's Pastor in Central Iowa. Her story is unlike any other we've shared on this podcast. It will inspire you. A lot. Thanks Bep for being so real, so you!

Episode 258 - Jeff&Jonny's 5 Hot Ministry Realities for 2018 from 2018-01-02T23:00

Jeff and Jonny present a #classic episode talking about 2018 ministry realities that they and you as pastors will deal with in the New Year. From political exhaustion to sporadic church attendance ...

Episode 257 - How Small Churches Can Help the Least of These Discover Hope! With Robbie Robinson from 2017-12-26T23:00

Jeff is joined by Robbie Robinson, the Exec. Director of www.DiscoverHope517.org, a faith based recovery ministry helping addicts and those returning to society from incarceration make healthy and ...

Episode 256 - Vulnerability and Authenticity in Ministry - A Conversation with Mark Young from 2017-12-19T23:00

Having served 43 years in ministry, Pastor Mark Young finds himself sitting squarely in the middle of the 200churches Studio with Jeff and Jonny talking about some of the most vulnerable moments of...

Episode 255 - Why You Must Focus On MarriedPeople in Your Small Church with Ted Lowe from the reThink Group from 2017-12-12T23:00

Ted Lowe, the Director of MarriedPeople.org, joins Jeff to talk about marriage ministry in your small church. Married people are waiting to long to ask for help with their marriage! Your church can...

Episode 254 - Naked Man Running - 100 Ideas That Work in a Small Church with Dave Jacobs from 2017-12-05T23:00

This is a conversation with Dave Jacobs from www.smallchurchpastor.com. Dave just released his book of 100 ideas that work in small churches - and we cover about 6 or 7 of them in this episode. Ver...

Episode 253 - An Encouraging Conversation with the Pastor Around the Corner from 2017-11-28T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Chad Jennings, a 200church pastor around the corner from Jeff. Chad has been in ministry 15 years and has just begun at his current church. Their conversation is very encou...

Episode 252 - The Easiest Way to Get the Best Training for Your Church -- A Conversation with Scott Magdalein from 2017-11-13T23:00

On this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk with Scott Magdalein from Trainedup.church about the videos and resources that he and his team have created to bring great training to every church. Scott has b...

Episode 251 - How Your Context Defines Your Ministry with Pedro Alexandrino.mp3 from 2017-11-07T23:00

This is Pedro Alexandrino's second time on the podcast, and he updates us on his small church plant in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. If this episode doesn't get you thinking about your own mini...

Episode 250 - Free Church Recources We Didn't Know Existed from Life.Church from 2017-10-31T23:00

Kyle Kutter, the Team Leader of the Open Network of Life.Church joins us to talk about the free resources inundating the website for pastors all around the world. Life.Church is a gracious ministry...

Episode 249 - Yes, I am an Introvert and a Pastor from 2017-10-24T23:00

Jonny and Jeff have a conversation with Gary Hanson about what it's like to be in ministry and be an introvert. As Gary says, most people think of pastors as people persons, extroverts who lov...

Episode 248 - Fired up for Ministry in Flint, Michigan - A Conversation with Ernesto Alaniz from 2017-10-17T23:00

Ernesto Alaniz is a small church pastor, a 200churches listener, and a passionate church planter in Flint MI. Ernesto shares his story of adventure, struggle, passion, hope, and accomplishment with...

Episode 247 - The Foundations of a Healthy Church from 2017-10-10T23:00

In this episode, Jonny and Jeff debunk some myths around what makes a church "healthy" and outline the foundation and practices of a real healthy church, ministries, and pastor.

Episode 246 - Using Coaching Skills In Pastoral Ministry with Dave Jacobs from 2017-10-03T23:00

Dave "the Animal" Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.com joins us to talk about how utilizing coaching skills makes for a much more effective leadership model in pastoral ministry! This is a ...

Episode 245: A Healthy Church is a Hospitable Church with Sam Prellwitz from 2017-09-26T23:00

This week Jonny is joined by his friend from seminary: Sam Prellwitz. Sam joined Jeff and Jonny way back on episode 105 and he was gracious enough to return to share some best practices from his ch...

Episode 244 - Leading Yourself Before You Lead Your Church with Scott Dalen from 2017-09-19T23:00

Jonny talks with Scott Dalen, a Lutheran pastor from the Midwest about self leadership. This is a conversation between two Millennial pastors about what it takes to lead yourself first. Scott is a ...

Episode 243 - Dealing with Fear and Loss: The Internal Struggle of a Pastor with Ray Hollenbach from 2017-09-12T23:00

Episode 243 is our conversation with the founder of www.studentsofjesus.com, Ray Hollenbach. Ray is a pastor's coach, a college theology prof, a church planter, and a church consultant. Ray ta...

Episode 242 - Leading in Uncharted Territory with Tod Bolsinger from 2017-09-05T23:00

Jonny talks with Tod Bolsinger about his recent book "Canoeing the Mountains" and leading the church in the post-Christian world we find ourselves in. Jonny is joined in this interview b...

Episode 241 - Contentment not Complacency with David Housholder from 2017-08-28T23:00

Jonny sits down with David Housholder to talk about how he cultivates contentment without getting complacent in his small church! Jonny and Jeff also give some updates on their new church situation...

Episode 240 - A Phenomenal Hour of Pastoral Coaching with David MacDonald from 2017-08-22T23:00

This episode is like sitting in on a free coaching call with a seasoned and live-wire pastor of a 200church! David MacDonald shares life, love, and leadership for small church pastors! You'll ...

Episode 239 - What Authors and Small Church Pastors Dream Of - A Story Of Radical Life Change with Steve Mason from 2017-08-15T23:00

Steve Mason was given the book, The Cure, reading it in one night his life immediately began to change, as did his wife's. They would never be the same. In a few years he would float in the Ca...

Episode 238 - When Life, Ministry, and Business Morph with Tim&Ginger Hohm from 2017-08-08T23:00

Tim and Ginger Hohm from www.mojovideo.tv, and small church ministry, join us to talk about what happens when life, ministry, and business change and morph - and God is in it - but you're stil...

Episode 237 - When Pastors Move - Jeff&Jonny's Story from 2017-08-01T23:00

Big transitions in both Jeff and Jonny's ministries this year! At this release, Jonny has left Orange City, and Jeff is on his way in about one month. They tell their stories of grit and grima...

Episode 236 - Does Anyone Still Deal With Gossip In The Church? With Dave Jacobs from 2017-07-25T23:00

Dave Jacobs, from www.SmallChurchPastor.com, joins Jeff to talk about specifics in dealing with destructive and divisive gossip in your small church. This is very helpful and practical!

Episode 235 - It's the Economy, Pastor! With Walter Brueggemann from 2017-07-18T23:00

Jeff and Jonny speak with Walter Brueggemann, who is surely one of the most influential Bible interpreters of our time. He has authored over one hundred books and numerous scholarly articles. He co...

Episode 234 - Eucharistic Celebration as the Cornerstone of Worship with Stanley Hauerwas from 2017-07-11T23:00

Named "America’s Best Theologian" by Time magazine in 2001, Dr. Stanley Hauerwas joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about the importance of the church, and the role of the small church pastor, ...

Episode 233 - Small Church Ministry in the Yukon Territory with Jeremy Norton from 2017-07-04T23:00

Jeremy Norton is the real deal! Straight from a small church, 200 miles north of Juneau AK, in the Yukon Territory of Canada, Jeremy talks about leading change, loving his leaders, and ordering his...

Episode 232 - Partnering With Other Churches To Serve Your Community with Zach Bauer from 2017-06-27T23:00

Zach Bauer, pastor of Red Door Church in Sioux Falls SD joins us to talk about how his small church is making a big impact on people in his community. This is an inspirational, practical, and encou...

Episode 231 - A Christological Tornado - with Cherith Nordling from 2017-06-20T23:00

The guys were blown out of the water as the Christological tornado that is Cherith Nordling ripped through the podcast studio, via Skype! Cherith expounds on the wonders of Jesus, the hypostatic un...

Episode 230 - The Global Impact of Children’s Ministry with AWANA CEO Valerie Bell from 2017-06-13T23:00

The CEO of AWANA Clubs International, Valerie Bell, joins the guys LIVE in the studio! This episode is off the charts heartfelt surrounding both Children's Ministry, and small churches and the...

Episode 229 - Meetings - Bane or Blessing with Dave Jacobs from 2017-06-06T23:00

From SmallChurchPastor.com, Dave "the Animal" Jacobs joins us to give some great advice on how to have great meetings, or as he put it, "meetings that don't suck!" This epi...

Episode 228 - Women As the Image-Bearers of God with Carolyn Custis James from 2017-05-30T23:00

Carolyn Custis James joins the guys to talk about her book, Half The Church. Carolyn is soft spoken with very loud content! What a fun lady with a sharp intellect and engaging sense of humor, talki...

Episode 227 - A Fresh Approach To Bible Reading with Glenn Paauw from 2017-05-23T23:00

Glenn Paauw from InstituteforBibleReading.org joins Jeff and Rob at a Missio Alliance Gathering recently to talk about a fresh approach to reading the Bible in community in your church - this is an...

Episode 226 - Creating Mental Illness Literate Congregations with Kay Warren from 2017-05-16T23:00

In 1980 Rick and Kay Warren started in their living room what is today Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, CA. 37 years later Kay can look back and see the best of times and the worst of times. She a...

Episode 225 - Reimagining Small Church Ministry with Zach Bauer from 2017-05-09T23:00

Zach "the Hammer" Bauer joins the guys to talk about how he recast a refined vision to his young church and set it on a more intentional and focused course. With his leadership team, he r...

Episode 224 - Race, Reconciliation,&the Church with Jemar Tisby from 2017-05-02T23:00

Things get REAL when Jeff & Jonny talk with Jemar Tisby about race, reconciliation, white privilege, and the church. They talk about sensitive things in our society, but they manage a very thou...

Episode 223 - There Is Freedom In Transparency As A Pastor with Mandy Smith from 2017-04-25T23:00

Mandy Smith is the Senior Pastor of University Christian Church in Cincinnati OH. This is her 2nd time with us to finish talking about The Transparent Pastor - a fantastically wonderful book she wr...

Episode 222 - Matt Frey Gives the Straight Dope on Discipleship for Small Church Pastors! from 2017-04-18T23:00

Matt Frey is a Discipleship Pastor from Beaver Falls, PA and an old pal of Jeff's. Never hesitant to bring the heat, Matt provides the straight dope on the issue of discipleship - in a way ver...

Episode 221 - Inner City Ministry At Bridge of Hope from 2017-04-11T23:00

Jeff talks with Robin Boda from Bridge of Hope Ministries in St. Louis MO. They talk about the needs of people in tough situations, and - what we offer them, and what they teach us! A very encourag...

Episode 220 - Preaching, Church Planting,&Bi-Vocational Ministry from 2017-04-04T23:00

John Chandler, from the SermonSmith Podcast, joins us to talk about sermon craft, bi-vocational ministry, missional ministry, and family/ministry balance, among much else! You will be encouraged to...

Episode 219 - Sexual Abuse in the Church - A Tragedy from 2017-03-28T23:00

Unlike any other episode we've done, this is a very serious discussion with two ladies who are sexual abuse survivors - about sexual abuse in the church, and child abuse as well. Jeff and Jonn...

Episode 218 - When Hillsong Church Plants In Your Town - with John Finkelde from 2017-03-21T23:00

John Finkelde, from Perth, Australia gives wisdom about how to handle another larger church planting in your town or neighborhood. What do you do? How do you deal with it? Jeff and Jonny have a gre...

Episode 217 - Hope in the Age of Fear from 2017-03-14T23:00

Sweet Baby Ray Hollenbach, from StudentsofJesus.com joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about a simple, yet so profound commodity that all of us pastors deal in - HOPE. We talk about hope in the age of fe...

Episode 216 - The Body of Christ Sports Many Outfits - A Never Before Episode! from 2017-03-07T23:00

Dan Tarrant is our special featured guest on this, the longest episode in the history of the Podcast. This is a phenomenal episode. We've never produced an episode like this one! Ever. You&apo...

Episode 215 - A Church Planter, Pastor,&Listener From Rio de Janeiro from 2017-02-28T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are joined by an energetic small church pastor/church planter from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Pedro Alexandrino. Pedro shares the challenge and beauty of a small church filled with rea...

Episode 214 - Wisdom From A Desert Pastor from 2017-02-21T23:00

David Housholder is a bivocational pastor from the San Diego area and a long time listener to the podcast! Jeff and Jonny talk with him about a vast array of small church ministry issues. You will ...

Episode 213 - When Listener Becomes Guest - Pastor Ronnie Brown from 2017-02-14T23:00

Pastor & Podcaster Ronnie Brown joins us - himself a listener to our podcast! Ronnie shares the wows and woes of his church and bivocational ministry. Ronnie is the real deal small church pasto...

Episode 212 - What’s the First Impression Your Church Makes? from 2017-02-07T23:00

On Episode 212 Greg Atkinson talks with the guys about your church’s first impressions and how they impact visitor retention, and ultimately the outreach of your church. This absolutely is a practi...

Episode 211 - Young Pastor + 2 Churches = Big Impact! from 2017-01-31T23:00

Shea Zellweger pastors two churches in Connecticut with a total of about 100 in attendance. Shea has BIG VISION for what his churches can accomplish in their neighborhoods! Exciting, practical, and...

Episode 210 - Pastor, A Rule Of Life That Will Allow You To Get Your Life Back! from 2017-01-24T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Ken Shigematsu, from Tenth Church in Vancouver BC. Ken talks about the spiritual disciplines he uses to center his life and he shares them with you! Yes, Ken talks contempl...

Episode 209 - This Great Couple Loves&Coaches Pastors For Maximum Health&Ministry! from 2017-01-17T23:00

When Barb emailed in constructive criticism to Jeff and Jonny, they invited her and her husband to come on the podcast and provide the rest of the story! This is an extremely fun episode about the ...

Episode 208 - Simplifying Systems in Your Small Church with Rich Birch from 2017-01-10T23:00

Rich Birch, from the UnSeminary Podcast and unseminary.com joins the guys to talk about his work at UnSeminary, AND how to think about needed systems, simply, in your small church. Lots of fun and ...

Episode 207 – The Pastor Who Would Be A Healthy Leader – You Know You Want To Listen! from 2017-01-03T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Justin Irving and Andrew Gross about their book on the intersection of leadership resiliency and differentiation of self. How’s that for slim reading?! This is about how to...

Episode 206 - An Army Chaplain’s Small Church Ministry in Afghanistan from 2016-12-27T23:00

Chaplain David Craig, Jonny's brother, talks to us all the way from his ministry post in Afghanistan - sharing the importance of ministry to small groups of soldiers in harm's way. This i...

Episode 205 - How To Withstand Ministry Wounds from 2016-12-20T23:00

We never say this, but EVERY PASTOR needs this episode! Jeff and Jonny talk with Bill Thrall, a pastor to pastors for decades, about how to pastor and lead in the most healthy way possible. Essenti...

Episode 204 - Why Wouldn't Every Pastor Want To Be Coached Like This?! from 2016-12-13T23:00

Jeff talks with Ray Brandon, a Michigan pastor who shares how he gets coached for free, the benefits of coaching, and a great conversation with Jeff, his old boss! Ray planted his church 11 years a...

Episode 203 - How Well Do You Resolve Conflict In Your Small Church? from 2016-12-06T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about what has been a recent and most serious conflict between them - while not giving details, they talk about the importance of conflict resolution in pastoral ministry. But f...

Episode 202 – Tired of Ministry Water, This Pastor Wanted Real Wine! from 2016-11-29T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Brian Zahnd, about his experience of moving from watery faith, to rich wine faith. His book, Water To Wine, outlines his 13 year journey to a deeper, richer, fuller faith a...

Episode 201 - How Small Church Pastors Can Inspire Kingdom Living from 2016-11-22T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Ray Hollenbach from www.studentsofjesus.com about inspiring a Kingdom imagination in our people. Ray shares some questions that will motivate Kingdom living in the lives of...

Episode 200 - N.T. Wright Provides Amazing Encouragement To Pastors of Small Churches! from 2016-11-15T23:00

This is an amazing conversation with NT scholar N.T. Wright, author of Surprised By Hope, The Day the Revolution Began, and dozens of other theological works. Tom Wright speaks at length on pastora...

Episode 199 - Mixing Theology and Psychology in Pastoral Ministry from 2016-11-08T23:00

The guys talk to Dr. Jeannine Brown about some deep stuff - interdisciplinary integration between theology and psychology, and other small church ministry junk like that! The is the stuff small chu...

Episode 198 - Your Church In Your Community – Presence Over Programs! from 2016-11-01T23:00

David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins the guys to talk about the 7 disciplines of a church that help them meet Christ where he is already working in the community – thus with him beco...

Episode 197 - Shattering the Myth of a Balanced Life from 2016-10-25T23:00

Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor at 12stone Church in Lawrenceville GA joins us to talk about the futile pursuit of a balanced life. Isn't that what we are always reaching for? Balance in life an...

Episode 196 – Is Your Church Plant A Faithful Presence Of Christ In Your Community? from 2016-10-18T23:00

The colorful and effervescent Dr. David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins Jonny and Jeff in this episode, talking about the guiding presuppositions for his book, Faithful Presence. This...

Episode 195 -The Four Foundations of Discipleship&How To Make A Pastoral Transition In Your 200church from 2016-10-11T23:00

Ray Hollenbach from StudentsOfJesus.com joins us to talk about Discipleship Philosophy and Leadership Transitions in a 200church. This is a brand new first time guest - a pastor's coach, colle...

Episode 194 - Overcoming Evangelism Inertia In Your 200church from 2016-10-04T23:00

Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com joins the boys to talk about obstacles to evangelism in small churches - and then shares some serious strategies for overcoming them! Jeff's paranoia ove...

Episode 193 - Help! I Pastor An Unhealthy Church! from 2016-09-27T23:00

Karl "the Shark" Vaters joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about pastoring unhealthy churches and how to do it, and he even gives a ton of advice on what to do if you are an unhealthy pastor! B...

Episode 192 - Help! My Church is in Maintenance Mode! from 2016-09-20T23:00

Pastor Dan "the Animal" Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Atlanta GA joins Jeff and Jonny talking about 7 signs of a church in maintenance mode, and how to get out of it! Dan...

Episode 191 - 200churches&College Ministry - A Great Mix! from 2016-09-13T23:00

College Ministry Pro Jonathan Burgio talks about how a small church can have a ministry on the college campus in their community! Another fun episode with the guys from Elim Fellowship in New York!

Episode 190 - This Small Church is a Big Deal in its Neighborhood from 2016-09-06T23:00

What a BLAST! Jonny & Jeff talk to Lori Harris, a pastor's wife and church planting partner from Rocky Mount, NC. This episode is certain to surprise you, inspire you, and motivate you to ...

Episode 189 - Transitioning, Leadership, Millennials, and Transparency - Jeff's Talk With A Ministry President! from 2016-08-30T23:00

Jeff talks with the President of Elim Fellowship, Chris Ball. They have a wide ranging discussion about the next generation of leadership, pastoral struggles, ministry health, and getting help as a...

Episode 188 - Battling Ministry Frustrations - You Can Be A Winner! from 2016-08-23T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are joined in the studio by "first call" pastor, Scott Dalen aka - Dirty Scotty D! We talk about frustrations that face especially newer pastors in ministry. We also share ...

Episode 187 - WARNING - Episode Contains Encouragement Overdose for Small Church Pastors! from 2016-08-16T23:00

Joe Jansen, from Elim Fellowship in Lima, NY joins us again to provide a virtual overdose of ministry encouragement for pastors of small churches! Joe shares a checklist for assessing your ministry...

Episode 186 - Emotions In the Workplace and the Pastor's Health – a Conversation with Dr. John Pletcher.mp3 from 2016-08-09T23:00

While Jonny is out, Jeff talks with Dr. John Pletcher, an old friend, about his book, Emoticon-versations: Working Through Our Deepest Places. What emotions do pastors deal with, and how to handle ...

Episode 185 - Just When You Needed Encouragement - Cheerleading the Small Church Pastor! from 2016-08-02T23:00

Jonny is remote in Orange City and Jeff is in the traveling 200churches Studio in NY talking with Joe Jansen, a Champion Cheerleader of small church pastors! You will be encouraged and inspired by ...

Episode 184 - How Vulnerability Actually Empowers Your Ministry! from 2016-07-26T23:00

Pastor Mandy Smith, from University Christian Church in Cincinnati joins the guys today to talk about her book, The Vulnerable Pastor - How Human Limitations Empower Our Ministry. Ultimately, Mandy...

Episode 183 - Dynamic Advice On Small Church Worship from 2016-07-19T23:00

A FANTASTIC conversation to share with your worship leader and entire worship team! A conversation with Jerret Hammons filled with practical worship leading wisdom. Jarret started leading worship a...

Episode 182 - 8 Warning Signs That Your Ministry Is About To Trump Your Family from 2016-07-12T23:00

This is a very practical episode on the importance of family in ministry. The imperceptibility of the slide of ministry activity into the holy space of family is a reality we must beware of! Dave J...

Episode 181 - The Vital Importance of Small Church Pastors! from 2016-07-05T23:00

Michael Nations, founder of The Vital Initiative, joins the guys to once again proclaim the value and importance of small church ministry! Michael is with the Church of God Cleveland, and he travel...

Episode 180 - How To Think About Volunteers In Your Small Church from 2016-06-28T23:00

Zach Bauer joins the guys live in the Studio again to talk about his volunteer philosophy at his church plant - Red Door Church in Sioux Falls, SD. Zach gets honest and vulnerable as he shares from...

Episode 179 - A Missionary Wife/Mom: What We Experience When Visiting Churches from 2016-06-21T23:00

With Jonny on sabbatical, Jeff speaks to Melanie, a missionary wife and young mother about the reality of the "One Year Furlough". Vacation? Or... Uh... Something else?? Some of us past...

Episode 178 - Ministry With One Hand Tied Behind Your Back from 2016-06-14T23:00

What a blast we had with Dave Jacobs from www.SmallChurchPastor.com! Dave talked with us on the topic of "Doing ministry with one hand tied behind your back." We had just too much fun on ...

Episode 177 - Teaching The Text: A Conversation with NT Scholar Jeannine Brown from 2016-06-07T23:00

A deep dive into the importance of understanding the text of Scripture in both the theory and practice of small church ministry. Dr. Jeannine Brown joins us to talk about her life's work, NT s...

Episode 176 - A Small Church Pastor Making A Big Difference - So Can You! from 2016-05-31T23:00

Pastor Michael Nations from Clyde, NC joins Jeff and Jonny LIVE in the 200churches Podcast Studio! Michael is the founding director of www.TheVitalInitiative.com and is making a difference encourag...

Episode 175 - Powerful&Practical Advice For Crafting Effective Sermons from 2016-05-24T23:00

Jeff talks with John Finkelde from GrowAHealthyChurch.com as he shares some powerful, essential advice for crafting attention getting, effective sermons! This is a mini seminar on the art of sermon...

Episode 174 - Why Pastors Need 200churches! from 2016-05-17T23:00

Jeff and Jonny use this episode to talk about the struggles of pastors who pastor churches that are smaller, or that are not growing by leaps and bounds. There's plenty of discouragement to go...

Episode 173 - This Bivocational Church Planting Pastor Tells All! from 2016-05-10T23:00

Zach is a bivocational pastor and church planter and shares some of the pro's and cons of being bivocational while planting a church, and even after the church tops 100! A fun conversation wit...

Episode 172 - Preaching&Social Media When A Listener Crashes the 200churches Podcast Studio! from 2016-05-03T23:00

Scott Dalen crashes the 200churches Podcast Studio and talks to Jeff about preaching, social media usage in small churches, Jeff & Jonny's chemistry, and much more! This was a fun episode ...

Episode 171 - Worship Ministry from a Small Church Perspective from 2016-04-26T23:00

Jonny is not too upset that Jeff had a private conversation with worship leader and musician Jeremiah Hollis, from Sydney Australia. Jeremiah has a heart for people, and God has gifted him musicall...

Episode 170 - Pastors: We Live at the Intersection of Theology&Culture from 2016-04-19T23:00

Jeff & Jonny dialogue with Dr. Silas Morgan, who specializes in political theology, and talks with them deeply about the place where pastors live - at the intersection of theology & culture...

Episode 169 - A Transcontinental Preaching Discussion With John Finkelde from 2016-04-12T23:00

Jeff (with a cameo appearance by Jonny) talks with John Finkelde all about preaching! Jeff dives into John's past preaching experiences and discusses some of his own. We all do it, every week,...

Episode 168 - 4 Difficult Realities Church Planters Face from 2016-04-05T23:00

Jonny and Jeff invited Zach Bauer, a South Dakota church planter, to the luxurious and opulent 200churches Podcast Studio... to talk about difficult realities that church planters face. Zach is a c...

Episode 167 - A Church Planter Shares How He Handled Unrealized Expectations from 2016-03-29T23:00

Church Planter and Pastor, Chris Vitarelli, joins Jeff and Jonny today to share his frustrations of high expectations unrealized, and how he found satisfaction and joy in his 200church plant! He te...

Episode 166 - A Theology of How the Church Works - with Scot McKnight from 2016-03-22T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. Scot McKnight from Northern Seminary about the messages in his book, A Fellowship of Differents! This is a long, rich, theologically alive conversation! Enjoy!

Episode 165 - 4 Reasons Why There's No One Right Way To Do Church from 2016-03-15T23:00

Do you really believe that there is no "one right way" to do church? Then why are we always looking for other models to emulate? Jeff and Jonny give you 4 reasons why there is no "on...

Episode 164 - How the Church Engages Culture(s) for God's Mission from 2016-03-08T23:00

Wow! David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins us for this discussion about the church engaging culture with the Gospel of the Kingdom! David last joined us on episode 145 - if you haven&...

Episode 163 - 4 Things Church Attenders Want Pastors To Know from 2016-03-01T23:00

A Classic Jeff & Jonny episode about 4 things people want their pastors to know. This is a vintage small church ministry conversation that you will resonate with if you pastor a church 200 or u...

Episode 162 - Simple Ways To Create Better Church Experiences from 2016-02-23T23:00

Sometimes the most fundamental principles of a thing get lost in the muddled process... of the thing! The thing Jeff and Jonny talk about in this episode is small church ministry. This episode is n...

Episode 161 - 3 Essential Questions Every Pastor Must Answer from 2016-02-16T23:00

Dave Jacobs joins the guys to talk about the 3 Essential Questions every pastor must answer, in order to keep growing and keep moving forward in both ministry AND life! This was such a fun episode ...

Episode 160 - Why Your Sermons Should Be Much Longer! from 2016-02-09T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about how to increase the impact of your weekend message. They suggest you start your message on Thursday, and then end it on Wednesday. Your sermon should be much longer, for c...

Episode 159 - The Hard Work of Growing Your Community Impact from 2016-02-02T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the two major ways that our churches can increase their community impact. These are not easy, but effective. Absolutely successful, but they describe the hard work of lovi...

Episode 158 - Your Raw Marriage - Pastor, Have You Ever Thought About Your Marriage Like This Before? from 2016-01-26T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Doug Burford, who is a church planter, counselor, marriage seminar leader, Walk Thru the Bible presenter, and all around great guy! He dissects the marriage relationship an...

Episode 157 - How This Real Life Pastor Handled Ministry Adversity from 2016-01-19T23:00

Regular, normal, 200church pastor Gary Floyd shares the highs and lows, the flash and the fizzle... the nitty and the gritty of small church ministry - all the way from a small New Mexico town to a...

Episode 156 - Pastor, Do You Ever Wrestle With These Four Temptations? from 2016-01-12T23:00

Pastors face all kinds of temptations and none of us is immune from them. In episode 156 Jonny talks with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA about four areas of te...

Episode 155 - Do You Need More Help Handling Ministry Stress? from 2016-01-05T23:00

Ministry Stress - we all deal with it! Dave Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.com, talks with Jeff about how to mitigate stress in your life as a pastor. You will find in this episode a lot to identif...

Episode 154 - Do You Need Help Handling Ministry Stress? from 2015-12-29T23:00

Stress is a constant in ministry, and is sometimes a challenge to manage. Dave Jacobs joins us to talk about the causes of ministry stress, the effects on us, and how to minimize them!

Episode 153 - A Small Church Pastor Adoption Adventure! from 2015-12-22T23:00

A personal conversation Jeff has with Jonny via Skype while Jonny and his wife Kayla are on an Adoption Adventure in Florida - during Christmas week 2015! This started as a personal private convers...

Episode 152 - The PASTOR LIFE: How Are You Handling the Basics? from 2015-12-15T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the foundational aspects of THAT PASTOR LIFE. What are the things we need to pay attention to as pastors, if we want health and effectiveness... fruit?! They share ten bas...

Episode 151 - Church Health and Growth in a Small Church Context with Carey Nieuwhof from 2015-12-08T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Carey Nieuwhof about church growth, and church health - in a 200church context. Fun, long, practical, encouraging, and challenging! Carey is a pastor in Ontario Canada and ...

Episode 150 - Do You Have Ministries Ready For the Woodchipper? from 2015-12-01T23:00

Jonny talks with Dan "The Mentor" Reiland about the ruthless evaluation of church ministries, even to the point of sending some through the wood chipper! An ultimately practical and fun e...

Episode 149 – 8 Essential Practices To Create Meaningful Change In Your 200Church from 2015-11-24T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share eight essential practices (we're talkin' about practice, yes, not the game, practice!. We're not talkin bout the game, we're talkin bout practice!) in creat...

Episode 148 - Do You Know What Visiting Missionaries Need From You&Your Church? from 2015-11-17T23:00

This episode is a GOLD MINE for you to learn exactly what visiting missionaries need from you while at your church. Missionary Tim talks with Jeff and shares his stories and secrets about how you c...

Episode 147 - 6 Church Insider Issues You Should No Longer Care About from 2015-11-10T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Karl Vaters about 6 church insider issues he no longer cares about! These are things that only long time church insiders care about, not anyone else. People outside the chu...

Episode 146 - Igniting Authentic Worship in Your Small Church from 2015-11-03T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Jeremiah Hollis, an Australian worship leader, about how to ignite authentic and genuine worship in your small church worship experiences. Jeremiah has led worship in their...

Episode 145 - Missional Ministry&Ministry Growth In Your Small Church from 2015-10-27T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. David Fitch, author, seminary prof, and pastor in the Chicago area about missional ministry and what it looks like in your small church. A great talk with a great teach...

Episode 144 - Five Practices To Increase Your Leadership Clarity from 2015-10-20T23:00

In episode 144, Jeff and Jonny share five practices that will help you increase the leadership clarity in your small church. These five things are immediately applicable in your 200church context! ...

Episode 143 - Does It Hurt You When People Leave Your Church? from 2015-10-13T23:00

Wow - Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com about the effects and pain on the pastor when people leave the church. This is a powerful and practical episode! Dave coaches s...

Episode 142 - Generating New Ideas In Your Small Church from 2015-10-06T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share their take on how to generate new ideas in your 200church. The very simple things are often the most profound - so they talk about the fundamental elements for new ideas, as we...

Episode 141 - A Conversation On Church Vision - Senior Pastors -&Children's Ministry from 2015-09-29T23:00

Melissa J MacDonald joins Jonny and Jeff on this episode to talk about the importance of Children's Ministry, but more, how the Senior Pastor must lead in this area of his/her church. A FANTAS...

Episode 140 - Your Church Family Deserves A Great Church! from 2015-09-22T23:00

Jonny and Jeff record from Vail, Colorado and share why they think your small church can be just as great as any larger church. Size does not dictate quality - love and the Gospel do!

Episode 139 - 5 Huge Words of Wisdom For Young Pastors... and Old! from 2015-09-15T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk again with John Finkelde about the 5 pieces of advice that he would definitely give to young pastors. This is a very fun, encouraging, and practical episode! And... they do ment...

Episode 138 - What Is The DNA Of Your Church? from 2015-09-08T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are back, after going four months in the summer of 2015 without recording together! They talk about what the DNA of their church is. This is a fun and encouraging episode, in a new a...

Episode 137 - Being That Church That Loves the People Jesus Loved from 2015-09-01T23:00

Jeff has a conversation with Rob Tarnoviski, a pastor from Philadelphia, who shares his passion to reach the kind of people most churches do not want to reach. Is your church a safe place for "...

Episode 136 - A Successful Strategy At Your New Church Ministry - and Old! from 2015-08-25T23:00

A great episode with Dave Ronan, Christian and Military leadership expert - on the subject of starting out at your new church. A real must for younger leaders to understand!

Episode 135 - How To Work With a Dysfunctional Small Church Board from 2015-08-18T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs about what to do if your board is dysfunctional. This is a "best of" episode all the way back from episode 58! In this month...

Episode 134 - Talking Diversity&Reconciliation in the Body of Christ with Christena Cleveland from 2015-08-11T23:00

This is a special August 2015 "best of" episode! With a new intro and outro, this conversation is taken from episode 86 - one of our highest rated episodes! Jonny and Jeff talk with Dr. C...

Episode 133 - One Pastor's Journey With Depression from 2015-08-04T23:00

Jonny & Jeff talk with David Craig, Jonny's Dad, about his journey in ministry with depression. This is a very honest and helpful discussion about something that so many suffer with in sil...

Episode 132 - Leading People - The Pastor's Constant Challenge from 2015-07-28T23:00

This episode is the part two, the conclusion, of Jeff and Jonny's conversation with Christian counselor Deon Wynia. Deon talks about how to navigate leadership when you are in the people busin...

Episode 131 - Trust - The Active Ingredient In Pastoral Leadership from 2015-07-21T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Deon Wynia, a counselor who works with churches on reconciliation and trust issues between pastors and people, and pastors and church leaders. This is an awesome conversati...

Episode 130 - Key Considerations For Staying At Or Leaving Your Small Church Ministry from 2015-07-14T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the things you should consider if you are struggling with the Should I stay or should I go? question. What should or shouldn't you consider? A fun, helpful, practical...

Episode 129 - Ministry Skills 101 - How To Manage Offending and Being Offended In Ministry from 2015-07-07T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk again with your Pastor Coach, Dave Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.Com - this time about how to offend less, and be less offended, in your small church ministry. A great conversa...

Episode 128 - Practical Tips For Managing Your Ministry Time from 2015-06-30T23:00

This is a fun episode with John Finkelde from GrowAHealthyChurch.com talking about how to thrive in a time-poor society. This will both challenge and encourage you!

Episode 127 - Confined No More - Impacting Your Community Beyond Your Building.mp3 from 2015-06-23T23:00

This is a great episode with Karl "the Shark" Vaters, a small church pastor in Fountain Valley, CA. Karl talks with us about doing ministry beyond the walls of the church. This is a great...

Episode 126 - Listener Q&A With Dan Reiland! from 2015-06-16T23:00

Dan Reiland answers listeners' questions on the horn with Jeff and Jonny. A number of you gave us some great questions for Dan, and he answers every one of them! We know you will be challenged...

Episode 125 - Four Ideas To Refresh Your Ministry.mp3 from 2015-06-09T23:00

Episode 124 - The Wonder of Children's Ministry In a 200church! from 2015-06-02T23:00

Jeff and Jonny's Children's Ministry Director, Jen, is live in the luxurious and opulent 200churches Podcast studio to talk Kid's Ministry - the wonder, the philosophy, and the magic...

Episode 123 - The 8 Proven Ways For Turning Volunteers Into Leaders from 2015-05-26T23:00

Jonny talks with the Guru of GrowAHealthyChurch.com, John Finkelde! He talks about how to turn volunteers into leaders - in 8 steps. This is very small church oriented training filled with great id...

Episode 122 - How To Be Less Misunderstood As A Pastor from 2015-05-19T23:00

Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs joins us with some golden wisdom on how to reduce the misunderstandings in ministry. This is a fun, encouraging, and equipping episode for you as a small churc...

Episode 121 - How To Freshen Up Your Sunday Morning Experience! from 2015-05-12T23:00

Dan "The Animal" Reiland joins the guys for this episode and talks about the evaluative questions to ask in assessing your Sunday morning experience. This is a very full, often serious, y...

Episode 120 - High Octane Ministry Encouragement from a Real Live Small Church Pastor! from 2015-05-05T23:00

Ryan Perz returns to the studio (see episode 17) to talk with the guys about the joys and rigors of small church ministry, straight out of the trenches of his small church of 55! High octane minist...

Episode 119 - Keep the Volunteer Pipeline Flowing For Successful Ministry Successions from 2015-04-28T23:00

With Jeff sick, Jonny pulls off a masterful performance with Australian Pastor Coach and Mentor, John Finkelde! They talk about how to create positive ministry successions in your small church, and...

Episode 118 - Working On Contentment In Small Church Ministry from 2015-04-21T23:00

Nathan Stob joins Jeff and Jonny in studio for a great conversation about being content as a small church pastor. Are we so focused on the "not yet" that we are missing the "already&...

Episode 117 - Insights On Preparing Your Worship Services from 2015-04-14T23:00

Dan Reiland joins the guys to talk about the mystery of the worship service. This is a great dive into the pastoral side of the worship experience. You should be challenged with this content to con...

Episode 116 - How To Be A Small Ego Pastor from 2015-04-10T23:00

What a crazy ride we had getting this episode out! Jeff got a flat tire on his way back from a hospital visit to record with Jonny and Dave, then Jeff got so sick it went out 3 days late! This shou...

Episode 115 - How To Maintain Momentum During Your Church's Off-Season from 2015-03-31T23:00

Jonny and Jeff share some ideas for keeping your church moving forward during the summer months, or whenever your church's off-season is. Keep some forward motion so you don't have to sta...

Episode 114 - Pastoral Ministry - Life Giving or Life Draining? from 2015-03-24T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with pastor, and 200churches listener, Paul Kuzma about his journey from ministry health, to burnout, back to ministry health. He encourages ministry that is life giving for the...

Episode 113 - Launching Ministry Initiatives That Truly Require Faith from 2015-03-17T23:00

This is a somewhat wild episode, with Jonny in a car to Minneapolis, Jeff in the Studio, and Dan Reiland in his Atlanta office. Dan talks about ministry initiatives that truly require FAITH. Dan&ap...

Episode 112 - The Heart And Soul Of The Pastor - Can I Trust God With Me? from 2015-03-10T23:00

This is an episode for the soul and the heart of the pastor. Bill Thrall trains and encourages Christian leaders and pastors, and has been for over twenty years. We cannot even describe this episod...

Episode 111 - The Vision Thing - In Your Small Church! from 2015-03-03T23:00

This episode is full of helpful content! Jeff and Jonny lead off with something they are currently trying at their church, then Dave Jacobs joins them to talk about vision, then they finish with pr...

Episode 110 - Even When It Hurts - Straight Talk On Your Leadership Team from 2015-02-24T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share with you a very personal conversation they had recently, when Jonny challenged Jeff regarding his preaching. You want to have people around you who will challenge you to be you...

Episode 109 - Five Questions To Ask When Your Church Is Not Growing from 2015-02-17T23:00

The Pastor's Coach, Dan Reiland, returns to the podcast to help us evaluate why our church may not be growing. Dan asks five questions about what just might have us stuck - understanding that ...

Episode 108 - A Deep Dive Into the Fundamentals of a Healthy Church from 2015-02-10T23:00

On episode 107 Karl Vaters cited health as the third alternative for a small church - today Jeff and Jonny take a deep dive into exactly what a healthy church looks like! Clear and practical, they ...

Episode 107 - A Third Alternative To"Grow It Or Close It" from 2015-02-03T23:00

Karl "the Shark" Vaters joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about a third option to "grow it or close it" for small churches. What if you pastor a small church, and it isn't growi...

Episode 106 - Beyond Burnout - This Pastor Turned Psychologist Offers Hope! from 2015-01-27T23:00

Dr. Mike Ferguson joins Jeff to talk about his passion to help small church pastors with burnout, depression, and loneliness. Dr. Mike pastored for 20 years, burned out, recovered, and then became ...

Episode 105 - Leading Transitions and Change in Your Small Church from 2015-01-20T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Jonny's friend Sam, who shares how his pastor led him in a staffing transition from one role to another, with great success! Great lessons for leading change in your 2...

Episode 104 – The Challenge of Pastoring Toxic People in Your 200Church from 2015-01-13T23:00

Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs rejoins Jonny and Jeff to talk about the challenge of toxic people in our churches, and how to handle them. The worst thing you could do is ignore them!

Episode 103 - How To Think About Visitors and Finances in Your Small Church from 2015-01-06T23:00

The guys kick off 2015 with a bang by talking to Australian Pastor John Finkelde. John and his wife Di coach and consult with pastors and churches. You're gonna love this one!! We promise! We ...

Episode 102 - Why Small Church Pastors Need Encouragement! from 2014-12-30T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share an end of year podcast episode on the last day of 2014! They talk about why their mission is to encourage pastors, and what they hope to accomplish in 2015... with appropriate ...

Episode 101 - Two Ministry Hacks To Immediately Improve Your Ministry from 2014-12-23T23:00

Jeff and Jonny give you two simple ministry hacks that will immediately begin to improve your ministry. If you want to narrow the focus of your ministry energy, this episode will help and encourage...

Episode 100 - Valuing Volunteers in Your 200church! from 2014-12-16T23:00

Jeff and Jonny use episode 100 to talk about valuing volunteers. We are to equip our people to do the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ. They share three ways to value volunteers in ...

Episode 99 - The Skinny On How Small Church Pastors Should Really Treat Visiting Missionaries from 2014-12-09T23:00

This episode features a conversation with "John Smith" who serves as a missionary in a dangerous part of the world. We talk about how pastors can do a better job with visiting missionarie...

Episode 98 - Small Church Pastors Should Fail To Succeed! from 2014-12-02T23:00

This is a Jeff and Jonny solo episode! They encourage small church pastors to step through failure to success. If you've failed recently, this episode is for you. With their classic relational...

Episode 97 - The Wonder of the Small Church Pastor! from 2014-11-25T23:00

We say it all the time, but this episode is one of the best of the 97 episodes we have released! Dr. John Stumbo is the President of our denomination, the Christian & Missionary Alliance - and ...

Episode 96 - Ten Great Numbers To Count In Your Small Church from 2014-11-18T23:00

Another great episode with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor at 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA, and former Vice President of John Maxwell's Injoy company. This conversation is based on a blog...

Episode 95 - Wise Words From A Seasoned Leader from 2014-11-11T23:00

Jonny & Jeff are back in the 200churches Podcast Studio for the first time following Jeff's son's accident. Doug is in rehab as this is recorded. Jeff gives a short update on his son&...

Episode 94 - 15 Years In His 200church - A Conversation With A Pastor Listener from 2014-11-04T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with 200church Pastor Chad Payne. Chad has served for 15 years in his 200church and talks about the blessings and battles of pastoral ministry. You will be encouraged and challe...

Episode 93 - Have You Evaluated Your Preaching Lately? A Conversation with Dave Jacobs from 2014-10-30T23:00

Jeff shares some personal words on a family crisis, and then he and Jonny talk with Dave Jacobs from smallchurchpastor.com about the subject of preaching. This is the first time the topic of preach...

Special Episode - The Worst Week of My Life from 2014-10-21T23:00

Jeff shares some words from his heart about his son, Douglas.

Episode 92 - To the Brink and Back: How Suffering Produces Lifechange - A Conversation with Dr. John Stumbo from 2014-10-14T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with a pastor who faced down death, recovered, and experienced significant life-change and growth through the process. John Stumbo tells his story, and also, conveniently happen...

Episode 91 - Leadership Talk: Going Rogue With Dan Reiland from 2014-10-07T23:00

On this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk off the cuff with Dan Reiland, asking him how he structures his day, leads his staff, gets stuff done, manages his time, etc. This is an encouraging, inspiring ...

Episode 90 - How Your Small Church Can Help Stop The Ebola Virus! from 2014-09-30T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Living Water International CEO, Mike Mantel, about the seriousness of the Ebola virus in West Africa, and what our small churches can actually do to help make a difference!...

Episode 89 - Full Time Students Full Time Pastors – Jeff&Jonny’s Story from 2014-09-23T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Danielle Dworak, the lady who helped them through their years at Bethel Seminary! Danielle is involved in student development with pastors and church leaders who are workin...

Episode 88 - Mental Health: When Depression Visits the Pastor from 2014-09-16T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with David Craig, Jonny's pastor father, about his decades-long silent struggle with Depression. David shares the good, the bad, and the ugly, and offers hope to you if you...

Episode 87 - Erik's Journey To Personal Pastoral Health from 2014-09-09T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with their friend, Erik Anderson - a pastor in St. Paul, MN. Erik talks about getting to the edge of complete burnout, and how he was able to avoid falling off the cliff - and w...

Episode 86 - Better Together: Pursuing Diversity In Your Small Church from 2014-09-02T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with author and professor Christena Cleveland about the message of her book, Disunity In Christ - Uncovering the Hidden Forces That Keep Us Apart. We talked with Christena in pe...

Episode 85 - Can A Small Church Also Be A Great Church? from 2014-08-26T23:00

Can you have a great church, even though it might be a small church? Karl Vaters from NewSmallChurch.com joins Jeff and Jonny, and the three of them insist, YES! Greatness is within your grasp as a...

Episode 84 - The Future of 200churches - A Personal Podcast From Jeff&Jonny from 2014-08-19T23:00

Jeff and Jonny get personal and talk about their vision for the future of 200churches. After more than a year and a half, their passion for small churches could not be stronger! No guests today - j...

Episode 83 – Two Crucial Steps To Breaking Your Pornography Addiction from 2014-08-12T23:00

Nathan Stob joins Jonny and Jeff live in the 200churches Studio for this episode. Nathan is a social worker, community leader, father of triplets, and director of an organization committed to helpi...

Episode 82 - How To Develop A More Outward Focused Church from 2014-08-05T23:00

From the start of this episode, Jonny and Jeff are joined by Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs - where they talk about how to develop a more outward focused church. This just does not happen na...

Episode 81 - A Conversation With The Voice Of The 200churches Podcast! from 2014-07-29T23:00

Angela, the voice of the 200churches Podcast comes on to talk about what it was like for her and her husband to church shop when they moved to our town, and why they eventually chose our church. Lo...

Episode 80 - 5 Great Leadership Characteristics For A Small Church Pastor from 2014-07-22T23:00

Jonny and Jeff again team up with Dan "the Enforcer" Reiland! This is a content-rich episode that will leave you thinking, and give you fresh ideas on how to be a great pastor/leader in y...

Episode 79 - Straight Talk For The Small Church Pastor - Solid Gold! from 2014-07-15T23:00

Jonny and Jeff visit their District Superintendent and ask him all the questions you would have asked if you were in the room with them. Doug Grogan was called out of a four-month retirement at 65 ...

Episode 78 - Being Small Is Not One Of Your Church's Problems! from 2014-07-08T23:00

Small Churches dot the globe, taking the Kingdom everywhere. It is God's amazing strategy. We have many problems we must deal with in our 200churches, but being small is not one of them. Karl ...

Episode 77 - How Pastoral Coaching Could Really Help You from 2014-07-01T23:00

Jeff is sans Jonny on this episode, but he makes it through with the help of his Pastoral Coach, Dave Jacobs! Dave shares in this episode the inside scoop on what he does with small church pastors ...

Episode 76 - Practical Pastoral Wisdom After A Quarter Century In The Same 200church from 2014-06-24T23:00

In his 26th year of pastoral ministry in the same church, Scott "The Leader" Carson shares practical pastoral wisdom that has served him and his church well. He talks with Jonny and Jeff ...

Episode 75 - How To Solve Problems, One At A Time, In Your 200church from 2014-06-17T23:00

What a great and inspiring conversation this is with Dan Reiland, the Pastor's Coach. We had a blast talking with Dan about how to approach problem solving in a small church, in ways that actu...

Episode 74 - How To Multiply Workplace Missionaries In Your Small Church from 2014-06-10T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with John Pletcher, another attendee of the Super-Secret Pastor's Retreat Jeff attended. John's book, Henry's Glory: A Story for Discovering Lasting Significance ...

Episode 73 - Why You Don't Have To Be Afraid of the 200 Barrier from 2014-06-03T23:00

Karl "the Shark" Vaters talks with Jonny and Jeff yet again about why some churches simply will never break the 200 barrier - and Karl hates that word "barrier". As small church...

Episode 72 - How To"Crush It!"In Leadership When Beginning A New Ministry from 2014-05-27T23:00

Jeff & Jonny share a very fun intro, then Jeff talks with Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dave Ronan about leadership in a small church. Dave is a former missionary, seminary professor, and curren...

Episode 71 - How To Handle Financial Pressures In Your 200church from 2014-05-20T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs, ministry coach to small church pastors, about the struggles pastors face when financial pressures are present in their small church. Don't face your finan...

Episode 70 - Lessons From Two Laymen - What Every Pastor Needs To Hear from 2014-05-13T23:00

This episode contains perspectives from two laymen that will challenge and encourage you, as well as give you ideas for your own 200church ministry. A conversation with Pastor Mark Meyers and his g...

Episode 69 - The Very Active Ingredient of a Healthy&Vibrant 200church from 2014-05-06T23:00

Jeff recounts his exclusive pastor's retreat experience and Jonny's attempted coup in his absence. Karl Vaters then joins the guys to talk about the one condition for small churches to be...

Episode 68 - The Essential Five: Priorities For A Small Church Pastor from 2014-04-29T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs about how in the world to set priorities as a small church pastor - in an encouraging and liberating way! Dave lays out a great plan than any one of us could fo...

Episode 67 - How To Start Smart As A Young Pastor from 2014-04-22T23:00

This episode is applicable to all pastors, but is intentionally directed to the YOUNG PASTORS who listen to the podcast. We talk with Dan Reiland about starting smart as a young leader, and also ad...

Episode 66 - How One Pastor Survived Burnout In His Urban 200church from 2014-04-15T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk to Kevin Pringle about his inner city church and how he survived burnout only to equip his church family to do real ministry! This is an encouraging story of how God answered th...

Episode 65 - Us 200church Pastors Love Megachurches Too! from 2014-04-08T23:00

Karl "The Shark" Vaters joins us as we discuss megachurches, why we love them, and how we can benefit from them without feeling inferior... or small! Some great ways to think about megach...

Episode 64 - The Pastor's Secret To Breaking Sin's Power from 2014-04-01T23:00

Jonny and Jeff have a conversation with the author of The Cure, John Lynch. They talk at length about a pastor's struggles, and the secret to breaking the power of sin and temptation.

Episode 63 - Three Dangers That Small Churches Face from 2014-03-25T23:00

Jeff and Jonny have a great conversation with Dan "The Enforcer" Reiland about three dangers that small churches face. This is a positive look at how small churches can avoid these danger...

Episode 62 - What Are You Afraid Of? Facing Your Ministry Fears from 2014-03-18T23:00

Jonny and Jeff record this late night episode around a pre-recorded conversation with SmallChurchPastor.com's Dave Jacobs. They talk about fear in the ministry - how to face, and fight, fear. ...

Episode 61 - How Not To Impress God as a 200church Pastor from 2014-03-11T23:00

John Lynch, from TrueFaced.com joins Jeff and Jonny live, in-studio to talk about the life of grace - we don't have to please or impress God to get him to approve of us. This is a spiritual ep...

Episode 60 - Small Church Pastors Should Stand Tall! from 2014-03-04T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are joined by The Shark, Karl Vaters. They talk about the importance of small churches, and about the pastors who lead them. This episode is a small church pastor super pep-talk!

Episode 59 - Six Big Words For Small Church Leaders from 2014-02-25T23:00

Jonny and Jeff are joined by Dan Reiland, the Pastor's Coach, as they talk about six big words for small church leaders. This episode is packed with humor, encouragement, and solid ministry tr...

Episode 58 – What To Do If You Have A Dysfunctional Board from 2014-02-18T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk dysfunctional boards with Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs. (Disclaimer: not that we pastors aren't dysfunctional!) If you are struggling with your board, Dave, Jonny,...

Episode 57 - Your Church IS Big Enough! from 2014-02-11T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are again joined by Karl "The Shark" Vaters for a phenomenally encouraging conversation focused on building up pastors of small churches! Thank you, Karl from NewSmallChurc...

Episode 56 - Brandon Cox Talks Church Planting and Pastors.com from 2014-02-04T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share a few ministry ideas on either end of this conversation with Brandon Cox, church planter and content manager of Pastors.com. They talk small church, church planting, Pastors.co...

Episode 55 - Six Words For Small Churches with Dan Reiland from 2014-01-28T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Dan Reiland about some very cool dynamics of small churches - 6 Words For Small Churches! Dan joins the guys every last Wednesday of the month. Dan is the executive pastor ...

Episode 54 - Are You Wired For Your Church In These 3 Areas? from 2014-01-21T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk about understanding how you are wired for ministry in three areas: your church/church culture, your staff/leadership, and your style of presenting God's Word each week. The...

Episode 53 - The Highest Priority of a Small Church Pastor - with Dave Jacobs from 2014-01-14T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with SmallChurchPastor.com's Dave Jacobs about the absolute highest priority of a small church pastor, or any pastor! What is it that you should make top shelf in your life...

Episode 52 - Super, Awesome, Fantastical Lessons We're Learning For A New Year! from 2014-01-07T23:00

Jonny and Jeff share some lessons that they are leaning into as they embark on ministry together in 2014 in their 200church. Jeff created the title, then Jonny dressed it up with some adjectives on...

Episode 51 - Help! We're Small Church Pastors - with Karl Vaters from 2013-12-31T23:00

Happy New Year to YOU!! Today is the first Wednesday of the month, and in 2014 the first Wednesday means we will be joined in part or in whole by Karl Vaters! Part, as in "part of the episode&...

Episode 50 - Training and Mentoring Leaders with Dan Reiland from 2013-12-24T23:00

In episode 50, Jeff and Jonny talk with Dan Reiland about training and mentoring leaders. This is Part 5 of their 2013 series with Dan, the Pastor's Coach. Great pastoral leadership principles...

Episode 49 - Small Church Pastor To-Do and Not-To-Do Lists for 2014 from 2013-12-17T23:00

On a short clip with Dave Jackson, Jeff and Jonny talk about how 200churches began. They started something - their podcast and blog - almost one year ago. In light of that, they talk about starting...

Episode 48 - Dave Jackson Talks Podcasting and Small Church Ministry from 2013-12-10T23:00

Jonny and Jeff are joined by Dave Jackson, an 8-year veteran podcaster who weighs in on his small church experiences, as well as his assessment of how good a job Jeff and Jonny are doing with the P...

Episode 47 - Social Media in Small Churches with Erik Fisher from 2013-12-03T23:00

This is a jam-packed episode with great leadership lessons, a conversation with Erik Fisher from beyondthetodolist.com on the topic of social media and ministry - and so much more! This is the long...

Episode 46 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 4/5 from 2013-11-26T23:00

On this Thanksgiving week episode, Jeff and Jonny again talk with Dan Reiland about raising up young leaders. They have a special announcement to make about Dan Reiland... long term! They also tal...

Episode 45 - Cynthia Moore - 20 Years Serving the Same Rural Church! from 2013-11-19T23:00

In this episode Jeff & Jonny are joined by a real life, 200church pastor who has served the same rural church for twenty years! Cynthia Moore pastors a church down a gravel road, and shares the...

Episode 44 - The Pastor's Self-Care with Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com from 2013-11-12T23:00

Dave Jacobs, a coach to small church pastors and boards, joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about the importance of the pastor's self-care and soul-care. This is a great conversation with a guy who ...

Episode 43 - Small Church Pastors and Pornography Addiction from 2013-11-05T23:00

In this episode Jonny and Jeff are joined by their friend Nathan Stob, the Director of Atlas Ministries in their town. Nathan counsels and helps men in their community with all kinds of life issues...

Episode 42 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 3 from 2013-10-29T23:00

What a great episode with our friend Dan Reiland from 12Stone Church! In this episode Dan talks to us about everything from trimming back our ministries to increase our impact - to the difference b...

Episode 41 - Karl Vaters Talks Small Church Ministry In Croatia from 2013-10-22T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk with Karl Vaters about his trip to Croatia to speak to small church pastors on the pro-small church message of his book, The Grasshopper Myth. He found church leaders who were h...

Episode 40 - Jim Powell Talks Church Culture&His Book, Dirt Matters from 2013-10-15T23:00

This episode is a great conversation about the culture of a church with Jim Powell from 95Network.com and Richwoods Christian Church. Jim is the author of Dirt Matters and we discuss how understand...

Episode 39 - Pastor Rob's 17 Year Ministry Grind - Part 2 from 2013-10-08T23:00

This is Part 2, and the conclusion of Jeff's conversation with Rob Tarnoviski, Lead Pastor of Bethel Fellowship, The Church at Franklin Mills, Philadelphia, PA. They talk about the importance ...

Episode 38 - Pastor Rob's 17 Year Ministry Grind - We Try Stuff from 2013-10-01T23:00

This episode is Part 1 of a two part conversation between Jeff and Rob Tarnoviski, Lead Pastor of Bethel Fellowship - The Church at Franklin Mills, in Philadelphia PA. Rob and Jeff have been best f...

Episode 37 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 2 from 2013-09-24T23:00

This is the second of five episodes with Dan Reiland, author of Amplified Leadership: 5 Practices To Establish Influence, Build People, and Impact Others For A Lifetime. Dan talks with Jeff and Jon...

Episode 36 - How Group Dynamics Creates That Dreaded 200 Barrier And What To Do About It from 2013-09-17T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny discuss the issue of church size, group dynamics, and how both create that annoying 200 barrier in most churches. They key off an article by Timothy Keller. They als...

Episode 35 - Avoiding Distractions That Take Us Off Course from 2013-09-10T23:00

New podcast theme music debuts in this episode! Jonny and Jeff talk about how to avoid being thrown off course by those frequent and even necessary distractions in ministry. Momentum is important a...

Episode 34 - Raising Children In Ministry: The Pastor's Kids! from 2013-09-03T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about pastor's kids, and are joined by Jeff's son, Doug. Doug and Jonny are both pastor's kids and have grown up in a ministry family. Jonny has two preschool son...

Episode 33 - Dan Reiland Talks About Amplified Leadership - Part 1/5 from 2013-08-27T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA, and author of Amplified Leadership. This is the first of five episodes that will be released on the la...

Episode 32 - Why You Should Explore Creative Communication Methods from 2013-08-20T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the importance of creatively communicating God's word every weekend. With some tongue-in-cheek humor, and a lot of passion, they explain why creativity and change act...

Episode 31 - Founder of NewSmallChurch.com Talks Small Church Ministry from 2013-08-13T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Karl Vaters, a 200church pastor from Orange County, CA and founder of NewSmallChurch.com, a blog devoted to Small Church ministry. This is only 30 minutes of an almost hour...

Episode 30 - Why Both Your Strengths AND Your Weaknesses Make Your Ministry from 2013-08-06T23:00

We often view strengths as positive and weaknesses as negative. Jeff and Jonny talk about the benefits of both, and why you want to keep your weaknesses! This is a great "perspective" epi...

Episode 29 - Isolated Pastors and the Heart of 200churches from 2013-07-30T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny share their hearts as they describe their vision for 200churches. They believe that as pastors, you can get enough training, education, and information – but you can...

Episode 28 - Why You Should Encourage Conflict Among The Leaders Of Your 200church from 2013-07-23T23:00

Who wants conflict? Well, just anyone who wants to find the best solution, the greatest idea, or the most effective method! In this episode, Jonny and Jeff talk about why a pastor of a 200church sh...

Episode 27 - How To Resolve Any Disagreement In Ministry from 2013-07-16T23:00

Personalities clash, preferences collide, pride swells, and ministry leaders disagree - what to do about it? So many churches suffer, split, or even dissolve because church leaders do not resolve c...

Episode 26 - Four Challenges To Boldness In MInistry and Why You Should Create A Stir from 2013-07-09T23:00

Do you pander, hedge your bets, or back off potentially controversial issues? In this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about speaking boldly in your 200church. You might think it would be easier to be b...

Episode 25 - How To Turn Around A Messy 200church from 2013-07-02T23:00

Jonny and Jeff are joined by Greg Atkinson, the Campus Pastor at Forest Park Carthage, near Joplin MO. Greg is an author and speaker, but his heart is in the local church and he is first a pastor. ...

Episode 24 - How To Lead and Influence Older People As A Young Leader from 2013-06-25T23:00

Jeff and Jonny answer a question sent in by Tyler Eiland. He asked about how to lead people in his church who have been attending the church he pastors for twice as long as he has been alive... Goo...

Episode 23 - Five Technologies Every 200church Must Engage With from 2013-06-18T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk about social media that every 200church must engage with. It's easier than ever to stay connected with people, we just have to do it. Here are five social media technologie...

Episode 22 - How To Give Clean Water For Life To 30K People from 2013-06-11T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Steve Spear, a former Willow Creek pastoral staff member, and current TEAM World Vision volunteer who is running across America to raise 1.5 million dollars to provide clea...

Episode 21 - The Lessons We Learned At The Chick-fil-A Leadercast from 2013-06-04T23:00

Jeff and Jonny share their experience and the lessons they learned at the Chick-fil-A Leadercast on May 10, 2013. They comment on the speakers, the value of leadership development, and the advantag...

Episode 20 - How Do Twenty-Somethings View The Church? from 2013-05-28T23:00

Jonny and Jeff are joined by Robert, a recent attender to their church. Robert is a pastor's kid, who became disillusioned with the church as a young adult, and stepped away from it for about ...

Episode 19 - How To Encourage Your People from 2013-05-21T23:00

Jeff and Jonny are joined by David Craig, who is to blame for Jonny! Jonny's Dad talks about his experiences over forty years of pastoring 200churches, and his new book, The Gospel According t...

Episode 18 - 5 Signs You Might Be A Plastic Pastor And What To Do About It from 2013-05-14T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the warning signs of plasticity in pastoral ministry. Are you a "Plasti-Pastor"? Jonny calls them "Ken Doll" pastors, and Jeff just thinks they're...

Episode 17 - The Pros and Cons of Small Church Ministry from 2013-05-07T23:00

In this episode Jeff and Jonny are joined by Ryan Perz, a pastor of a 200church... of 50! Ryan joins the conversation, sharing some of his background and the thing he has in common with Jonny and J...

Episode 16 - Antidote For A Selfish Church from 2013-04-30T23:00

In this episode Jonny and Jeff define what a selfish church is, maybe not what you're thinking. They then talk about the antidote, what can turn a selfish church into an outward focused church.

Episode 15 - Our Fantasy Sunday Morning Service from 2013-04-23T23:00

In this episode Jeff and Jonny share their fantasy Sunday morning service - and the unrealistic expectations that accompany it. Then they share four expectations we can all see fulfilled every Sund...

Episode 14 - 8 Ways To Build Relationships With Your Church Board from 2013-04-16T23:00

In this episode we welcome a cameo appearance by Michael Hyatt, and play a clip from his podcast to set up our discussion on how to build relationships with your church board, so that you can work ...

Episode 13 - What Real Ministry Looks Like from 2013-04-08T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk with Chris Nye, a pastor from the Portland, OR area. Chris wrote a Leadership Journal article called The New Televangelists, and that is the topic of their conversation.

Episode 12 - What Makes a Pastor Want to Leave? from 2013-04-02T23:00

The hymn says, "Prone to wander, Lord I feel it..." and in this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about the things that make a pastor want to leave their church, and think that the grass is rea...

Episode 11 - Integrating Your Church Into the Community from 2013-03-25T23:00

Jeff and Jonny talk about the challenge of integrating your church into the community. The goal is a church that, if gone, the community would really, really miss! They talk about the challenge of ...

Episode 10 - Working With Volunteer Leaders from 2013-03-18T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny welcome Jan Schuiteman to the podcast! Jan has been an elder, and a leader at almost every level at our church for the past 30 years. Jan is a businessman who believ...

Episode 09 - Positive Approaches to your Prayer Shortage from 2013-03-11T23:00

Jonny and Jeff talk about the five reasons why they find themselves in a prayer shortage, and how to approach and overcome them.

Episode 08 - How To Balance our Personal Life, Family Time, and Ministry Responsibilities from 2013-03-05T23:00

In this episode Jeff & Jonny talk about the challenge of managing our time to give honor to our personal lives, our family time, and our ministry responsibilities.

Episode 07 - Creating a Welcoming Atmosphere from 2013-02-26T23:00

In this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about creating a welcoming environment in your church regardless of the extent of your resources.

Episode 06 - Getting New People Involved in Ministry ASAP from 2013-02-18T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about what stands in the way of getting new people involved in a ministry quickly, and how to move beyond those obstacles to get new people plugged in ASAP.

Episode 05 - Brian Hanson and Gatekeepers Ministry from 2013-02-11T23:00

Brian Hansen, director of Gatekeepers ministry dropped by this week to talk a bit about equipping church leaders and laypeople to minister to those in their sphere of influence.

Episode 04 - Cultivating Good Staff Relationships from 2013-02-04T23:00

In this episode of the 200churches podcast, Jonny and Jeff talk about the importance of having good staff relationships and give some tips on how to cultivate those relationships.

Episode 03 - How to Handle People Leaving Your Church from 2013-01-28T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about how to handle people leaving your church. It's inevitable in a 200church that people will cycle in and out,, so we have some tips for how to best man...

Episode 02 - Handling the Sacred Cows in Your Church from 2013-01-21T23:00

In this episode of 200churches, Jonny and Jeff talk about "sacred cows" in our churches and how to effectively deal with those areas that seem too tough to change.

Episode 01 - Not as Bad as it Used to Be from 2013-01-17T23:00

In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about their motivation for creating 200churches and how to avoid being a church that settles for "not as bad as it used to be."

Episode 00 - What is 200churches? from 2013-01-15T23:00

In this first episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about the vision for the 200churches Podcast and blog at 200churches.com. 200churches.com exists to encourage, support, and affirm pastors of smaller chur...

Episode 00 - What is 200churches? from 2013-01-15T23:00

In this first episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about the vision for the 200churches Podcast and blog at 200churches.com. 200churches.com exists to encourage, support, and affirm pastors of smaller chur...

Episode 00 - What is 200churches? from 2013-01-15T23:00

In this first episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about the vision for the 200churches Podcast and blog at 200churches.com. 200churches.com exists to encourage, support, and affirm pastors of smaller chur...