Matt Dawson’s Rugby Show: How do you beat the All Blacks? - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

How do England beat the All Blacks? That’s just one of the questions put to World Cup winners Matt Dawson and Paul Grayson as they look ahead to England against New Zealand. You’ll hear from Eddie Jones on the recall of Chris Ashton, plus Brad Shields on facing the country of his birth.
We also preview Wales’ Test against Australia by heading inside Warren Gatland’s camp to speak in-depth with George North.

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