All Ball - NFL Draft Dreams + Draft Behind-The-Scenes with Andy Phillips - a podcast by The Herd Podcast Network

In this episode, Doug gives his take on the Suns paying through the nose to keep Deandre Ayton, and which team will eventually pay up for KD. Then, former all-MAC o-lineman and author of Round Zero: Inside the NFL Draft discusses his journey from growing up in Lansing, Michigan in the shadows of Michigan State, to unheralded Central Michigan recruit, to an all-conference lineman, to draft prospect, to his cup of coffee with the Packers and an unforgettable camp moment with Aaron Rodgers. He also explains how his confusing draft experience and the disappointment of going undrafted inspired his book examining all the angles of the draft from the perspective of legendary coaches, general managers, agents, and players. 

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