Beto O’Rourke on why he’s running for Texas governor - a podcast by Chris Hayes, MSNBC

Guests: Helene Cooper, Michael Steele, Beto O'Rourke, Nikole Hannah-Jones
Tonight: New details on the lengths the Trump campaign went to, including pressuring the Pentagon to steal the election and pushing bonkers theories about the head of the CIA and a server in Germany. Then, Democrats move to censure Rep. Paul Gosar for his threatening tweet, as Republicans try to kick moderates to the curb. Plus, Beto O'Rourke takes on Greg Abbott in Texas, and he joins us live. And an exclusive interview with Nikole Hannah-Jones on her ground-breaking new 1619 Project book.

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