New reporting on what Pence told Jack Smith about Jan. 6 - a podcast by Chris Hayes, MSNBC

Guests: Andrew Weissmann, Lisa Rubin, Michael Steele, Eric Levitz, Rich Price

Just how close did Mike Pence come to ending democracy? Tonight: new reporting on the plans Mike Pence abandoned—and the Senator who knew all about it. Then, no plea deals for Trump or Rudy in Georgia as the Republican frontrunner returns to an unpopular campaign promise. And as hostages continue to be reunited with loved ones in Israel, what we're learning about the shooting of three Palestinian students in Vermont. 

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