Trump chief of staff lobbied DOJ to probe baseless election fraud claims - a podcast by Chris Hayes, MSNBC

Tonight: Rudy Giuliani caught on tape, and the former president's chief of staff caught imploring the Justice Department to act on the Big Lie. Then, Michael Cohen on the investigation into the Trump Organization. Plus, Arizona Secretary of state Katie Hobbs on the ongoing undermining of democracy in her state. And Sen. Bernie Sanders on what happens now that Joe Manchin did what Joe Manchin does.
Guests: Sen. Claire McCaskill, Adam Serwer, Michael Cohen, Katie Hobbs, Sen. Bernie Sanders

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