AXSChat Podcast recorded in 2019 with Judith (Judy) Heumann, a former Special Advisor for International Disability Rights at the US Department of State from 2010-2017 - a podcast by Antonio Santos, Debra Ruh, Neil Milliken

She attended Camp Jened, a camp for kids with disabilities, in Hunter, New York every summer from ages 9 to 18. Heumann's experience of camp brought her a greater awareness of the connected of disabled experience "We had the same joy together, the same anger over the way we were treated and the same frustrations at opportunities we didn't have."[2] It was there that she met Bobbi Linn and Freida Tankus, who she would later work with as disability rights activists.

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