Episode 53 - The Trouble With Normal Is It Always Gets Worse (w/ John Nichols) - a podcast by Briahna Joy Gray & Virgil Texas

Brie and Virgil host veteran progressive journalist and author John Nichols. In one of our favorite interviews, the The Nation journalist provides much needed historical context for the ongoing internecine battles on the left. He helps us answer the tough questions: How much risk tolerance should the left have for battles that must be fought, but aren't easily won? Who will emerge as the next A. Phillip Randolph poised to "make Biden do" what America needs? And what will happen if the progressive organizations that historically filled that role don't step up?

Brie and Virgil discuss the Meghan Markle/Oprah interview and strategies for watching Family Feud.

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Find John's recent books The Fight for the Soul of the Democratic Party and The "S" Word at Verso.

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