The UK, US and Australia announce historic security pact - a podcast by BBC Radio 4

The defence partnership between Australia, the UK & the UK, known as Aukus, will cover AI and other technologies. It will let Australia build nuclear-powered submarines for the first time, using technology provided by the US.

Today's Martha Kearney speaks to Ben Wallace, UK Defence Secretary.

Nick Robinson also speaks to Dr Henry Wang, President of the Centre for China and Globalization, a think tank in Beijing, and advisor to the Chinese government.

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