The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus — Clip from an interview with Joseph Peterson - a podcast by Avery Smith

I was honored to be invited onto Kings and Queens, a podcast hosted by Joseph & Nicole Peterson, to talk about Jesus through a trans lens! The full episode is over on their podcast and includes more of my own personal story as well. 

For more about the Petersons, visit www.thepetersons.cc.

For a transcript of this episode, click here.

Talking Points:

(0:00 - 3:30) Intro

(3:30 - 11:28) Pastoring people into conversations about trans Jesus — why does the idea shock or offend many people? Normativity conflated with morality

(11:29 - 14:18) Ideas of gender in Jesus's time and place; Jesus's gender nonconformity: no wife and kids; Mother Hen

(14:19 - 19:35) Jesus closeted, coming out; his deep desire to be known by those he loves

(19:36 - 23:40) Eunuch Jesus! — happily accepts association with those his world called sexually deviant; reclaiming slurs like eunuch or queer

(23:41 - end) Jesus's transition story: genderless divinity entering finite humanity, assigned male at birth

Further Reading:

- blessedarethebinarybreakers.com/nt — "Assigned Male at Incarnation: An Intersex and Transgender Jesus"

- https://blessedarethebinarybreakers.tumblr.com/tagged/trans+jesus — varied posts about Jesus being trans

- Ep 40 of this podcast — "Goodness Embodied: An Intersex, Nonbinary First Human & a Disabled Risen Christ"

- Ep 32 of this podcast — "A Queer Nativity: God's transition; Mary's trans-gressive yes; and Joseph's trans-formation into an ally"

- Some of Avery's liturgy and poetry that speaks to a transgender Jesus — https://binarybreakingliturgy.com/?s=trans+jesus

- Short sermon on trans Jesus — https://a-queer-seminarian.tumblr.com/post/166432404438/i-was-happy-to-be-part-of-this-years-lpts-more

- Chris Paige's book OtherWise Christian

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