#335 - Adam Gopnik on THE REAL WORK - a podcast by Books on Pod

The New Yorker's Adam Gopnik chats with Trey Elling about THE REAL WORK: ON THE MYSTERY OF MASTERY. Topics include:

• The book’s goal (0:38)


• The importance of learning new skills (3:26)


• Defining ‘mastery’ (6:12)


• The mystery of performance (8:19)


• Jamy Ian Swiss and the real work (13:15)


• “The method is not the trick” (16:33)


• Learning about mastery from David Blaine (19:11)


• The mystery of identity and intention (23:53)


• The challenge of Adam learning to drive a car in his 50s (29:07)


• How learning to drive in NYC changed his perception of the city (32:38)


• Courtesy waves (34:54)


• The mystery of interiority (36:24)


• The mystery of meaning (40:17)


• The mystery of late style (46:22)


• Overcoming a shy bladder (49:32)


• Whether learning how to draw altered Adam’s perception as an art critic (55:13)

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