079. Wayne Liquorman - a podcast by Rick Archer

Wayne Liquorman was both a spiritual seeker and a family man with a successful export business, when he met his first and final guru, Ramesh Balsekar, in September 1987. In April 1989 the process of seeking ended when enlightenment happened through the body-mind mechanism called Wayne.

Wayne describes the event as being"of interest only to seekers."His first book, No Way: A Guide For the Spiritually'Advanced' was published in 1990 under the pen name Ram Tzu because he"didn't want a bunch of miserable seekers cluttering up his living room."In fact, Wayne did not speak publicly until Ramesh asked him to do so in 1996.

This enlightenment event and its aftermath are described in Wayne's second book, Acceptance of What IS, published in 2000. He is also the author of Never Mind... A journey into Non-duality, and the editor of Consciousness Speaks and several other books by Ramesh Balsekar, who refers to Wayne as his"spiritual son."His most recent book, Enlightenment Is Not What You Think, was published in 2009.

The teaching, as it happens through Wayne, is pure Advaita (non-duality), uniquely presented in a uncompromising, sometimes humorous way, without religious dogma or new age veneer. In his Talks, Wayne is without agenda, speaking only in response to seeker's questions. He talks about Consciousness: the ground of all being, the source and the substance of everything."This Advaita, as I talk about it, is not actually a philosophy, because it does not hold any tenets. It is simply a collection of pointers and concepts, and it posits that none of them are true in an absolute sense. This teaching is not about conveying the truth. It is about prying away the limitations and misconceptions about how things are."- from Never Mind

Wayne's message is clear and simple. Although he may suggest areas for further inquiry, Wayne offers no cures, practices, or miracles to reach enlightenment. He invites you to bring your most cherished beliefs to his Talks. If you are really fortunate, you may leave without them.

Wayne's site: http://www.advaita.org/

Transcript of this interviewInterview recorded 7/24/2011

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.YouTube Video Chapters:


00:00:00 - Introduction to Wayne Liquorman00:03:29 - The Illusion of Authorship
00:06:45 - The Metaphor of the Ocean and the Wave00:09:48 - The Illusion of Separation
00:13:18 - Pure Presence and Is-ness00:16:59 - The Paradox of Action and Inaction
00:19:41 - Playing the Role of an Instrument of Consciousness00:22:22 - The Journey from Addiction to Recovery
00:25:21 - A Life-Altering Moment00:28:02 - Transformation and the Power of the Universe
00:30:16 - Exploring Spiritual Explanations00:32:46 - Falling in Love with Ramesh
00:35:38 - Falling in Love with an Indian Guru00:37:54 - The Movement from Wanting to Getting
00:40:15 - The Turning Point of Giving and Receiving00:42:27 - Real Freedom and Giving
00:44:34 - Getting to Know the Man on Tour00:47:17 - The Experience of Resonance with the Guru
00:50:07 - The Awakening00:53:07 - The Presence of Absence
00:57:53 - The Unexpected Talk with Ramesh01:01:00 - The Difference Between Pain and Suffering
01:04:40 - The Experience of Pain without a Witness01:07:32 - Understanding the Sense of Self as Wayne
01:10:35 - The Difference Between Awakening and Enlightenment01:13:56 - The Link Between Enlightenment and Behavior
01:17:15 - Behavior and Enlightenment01:20:20 - The Relationship between Action and Consciousness
01:23:18 - Further Unfoldment and Development After Realization01:26:01 - Changes in the Human Organism
01:28:19 - Wrapping up the Interview

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