029: Tom Oliver | Oliver's Cider and Perry, UK - a podcast by Ria Windcaller: Award winning Cidermaker | Craft Libations Columnist | Podc

Tom Oliver chatted on hopped cider and the best of what the US
and UK have to look forward to in the cider market.

What he saw in US hopped ciders back in 2013 ignited his desire
to try his hand at adding hops to his bittersweet cider. He worked
with 3-different cider blends and Cascade hops and in turn "ramped
up" the bittersweet element to give a bit more of the drying
finish.  The hop from the Czech Republic Kazbet was also used
and provide a very different profile and balance to the
Cascade.

I had a chance to taste his At The
Hop and it was delicious.

What makes cider unique?

• "Sharing our techniques or what some might consider trade
  secrets."

Tom's "Free suggestion" for cider that will conquer the world -
"If you make a bottle fermented cider with Wickson Crab Apple
and put it in small bottles with just enough sweetness to balance
it out - it will be the perfect celebratory wedding drink!

What does the US cider offer that is different than the UK
ciders?

• The "massive fruit aroma" which helps compensate for the
  absence of the bittersweet in the US.

 

Other topics discussed in this chat:

• The implications of the CiderAct imp


• Concentrated juice's use in cidermaking


• Real cider and  a probable definition of craft cider


• Who can call themself a craft cidermaker?

For Tom only one things matters: is it a good cider, which he
says is the starting point.

What is good cider?

When you smell it, it does this...

When you taste it, it does that...

and overall this is what you get with it...

What Tom says about getting into the business of making
cider.

• Need to look carefully and set your goals. Is it to make cider
  and perry or to make money?


• AND -Thank goodness for the course he took with "http://www.cider-academy.co.uk/GENERAL/peter-mitchell.shtml">Peter
  Mitchell in 1999 on principles and practices, so that he
  knew fully what he was getting into.

"I get no satisfaction from huge amounts of money. What I do
get satisfaction from is knowing that you have enough to make the
best cider you can. If you are making the best cider, you see the
reaction of the people tasting the cider."

Contact info for Oliver's Cider and
Perry

Website: "https://oliversciderandperry.co.uk/">https://oliversciderandperry.co.uk/

Address: Moor House Farm, Ocle Pychard,
Hereford HR1 3QZ, United Kingdom

Telephone: +44 7768 732026

Twitter: "https://twitter.com/oliverscider?lang=en">@oliverscider

Facebook:"https://www.facebook.com/oliversciderandperry/"> https://www.facebook.com/oliversciderandperry/

Thank you to our Founding Sponsor "http://www.cidercellars.com/">Cider
Cellars Importers  of real cider from the
UK.

 

Fine the show notes to this episode at "http://ciderchat.com/">ciderchat.com

 

 

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