"Never before in our lifetimes have we had a moment like this, that has been so disruptive, so systemically, globally disruptive." - a conversation with Sage Hayes - a podcast by Liz Gold
from 2020-05-22T16:00:23
How can we take care of ourselves during this intense time of uncertainty? What is really essential about your life in the present moment? In this episode, I talk with somatic practitioner, community organizer and healer, Sage Hayes about how disassociation is a strategic, incredible sign of resilience; people's capacity as it relates to privilege and how to listen to one's body.
"The people who have endured marginalization over many years - queers, the POCs, the poor people, the people with larger bodies, the disabled population, there is a pretty epic, almost like, endurance."
"It's just a very illuminating moment for what people have a lot of capacity and what people haven't built much capacity at all. People who have built a lot of capacity have only built that because they've had to deal, it has not been a choice. And there's a whole bunch of people have had a lot more choice around that because of their privilege. I think that's really interesting to watch people get disrupted."
"We don't usually get the whole story about what's truly happening."
"There is a lot of fear in the social nervous system right now."
"How do we do micro-moments of just taking a breath, or just getting out for a two minute walk or like connecting for a five minute conversation just to help kind of down regulate our stress a little bit?"
"Never before in our lifetimes have we had a moment like this, that has been so disruptive, so systemically, globally disruptive."
"There's an element of this which we can really make this an opportunity to get a lot clearer on what's important to us - individually."
"Reacting is different than listening. And listening asks us to slow down. It asks us to drop in and feel ourselves a little bit. Which I know is not really, maybe realistic for a whole bunch of people right now."
"When trauma happens, it actually usually triggers many of our old traumas."
"We're going to be living with this sense of 'is this over?' for a very long time."
"There is always a good reason our body won't let us do something."
"Feeling ourselves is revolutionary. When we feel ourselves and we allow ourselves to connect with a little bit of the intuition of the body, there is so much there for us."
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Sage Hayes Bio:
Sage Hayes (she/he/they) is a somatic practitioner exploring frontiers of embodied liberation. Sage is an anti-racist, trans and queer somatics practitioner with Embodied Liberation and a lead teaching assistant with the Somatic Experiencing Trauma Institute. Sage's work integrates biodynamic craniosacral therapy, systemic constellations, evolutionary biology, quantum physics, ecstatic dance, Somatic Experiencing and intuitive wisdom practices. As an educator, a community organizer, a healing arts practitioner, Sage is passionate about creative ways to create conditions for embodied liberation which interrupt and help us heal from the trauma of supremacy, binary thinking and marginalization, in both systems and in bodies. Sage lives on the ancestral lands of the Narragansetts and Wampanoags currently known as Rhode Island with her brilliant partner and travels around the world to support trauma healing.
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