#112: Thomas Frank – Getting nerdy about YouTube and why he created a second channel - a podcast by Jay Clouse / The Podglomerate

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EPISODE DESCRIPTIONThomas is a YouTuber, podcaster, and author who helps people become more capable and productive. His main YouTube channel has nearly 2.5 million subscribers and more than 160 million views! In 2020, Thomas began producing a lot of content about how to use Notion, a popular project management and note-taking software. But instead of publishing those videos on his existing channel, Thomas created a SECOND channel called Thomas Frank Explains, which itself already has nearly 80K subscribers and almost 3 million views.
So in this episode, we talk about Thomas’s YouTube journey, why he built a second channel for his Notion content, how he’s thinking about short-form video like Shorts, and how intentional he is about all of the details that go into building his business.Full transcript and show notes
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TIMESTAMPS00:17 - Today’s guest
01:01 - When Thomas took YouTube seriously01:49 - Thomas’s early inspiration
02:38 - What we learn today03:39 - YouTube vs Wistia
05:27 - Why don’t Thomas’s old videos suck?06:36 - The “true” start of Thomas Frank
07:14 - Using Reddit to grow on YouTube08:23 - Thomas goes viral
10:26 - What changed after the viral video?11:41 - How Thomas was making money to focus on YouTube
12:32 - Thomas didn’t turn on AdSense until 100k subs15:40 - Creator self-doubt
16:53 - Thomas’s approach to criticism18:09 - What took 2200 subs to 2.5 million
19:25 - Importance of platform discoverability21:35 - YouTube podcasts
22:15 - How does Thomas think about his business today?23:13 - The Notion Arc
26:18 - AdSense + Brand Deals vs Direct Monetization31:18 - Why make a second YouTube channel?
32:58 - What’s the plan for the main channel?34:41 - How does the YouTube algorithm work?
36:50 - How to think about short form video39:20 - Looking at content through the “Jobs to be done” framework
41:39 - Why Thomas makes everything FREE45:45 - Thomas’s skillshare hack
48:50 - Team Thomas Frank51:15 - Every creator should hire an editor sooner
52:20 - Art vs Ego53:19 - What is currently frustrating Thomas Frank?
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