Kiddushin 47 - September 29, 14 Tishrei - a podcast by Michelle Cohen Farber

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Rava holds that according to Rabbi Ami who thinks that the case in the Mishna where the woman ate each date as it was given to her is referring to the case of "this one and this one," it would be limited to that case only and not to one where the man said, "betroth me with all of these." A braita is brought to support this statement of Rava. After explaining how the braita supports Rava, they need to explain how to read the last line in the braita according to Rav and Shmuel and Rabbi Ami. Rav holds that a betrothal cannot be effected by canceling a loan that the woman owes the man because a loan is intended for spending and therefore the money owed is not considered owned by the man. Is this a subject of debate among tannaim? Two braitot are brought to attempt to show that what Rav said is a tannaitic debate. However, they reject both suggestions as each braita can be explained to be referring to a debate about a different subject. Another braita is brought to raise a difficulty against Rav. But, again, to resolve the difficulty, they suggest an alternative reading of the braita, which then again raises the possibility that Rav's statement is a subject of debate among tannaim, but this too is rejected. 

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