Kiddushin 58 - October 10, 25 Tishrei - a podcast by Michelle Cohen Farber

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Today's daf is sponsored by Mindy Gerstman in loving memory of Dr. Esther Ehrman. "She founded the Bet Shemesh Ladies' Daf Yomi 15 years ago. She actively participated till Erev Sukkot. She passed away at age 98 on Sukkot. And for an Iluie Neshama for those who fell on Simchat Torah and the past few days; for a refuah shleima to the wounded. And for the safety and success of all our sons, daughters, nephews, nieces and all of those who are serving in Tzahal."

Today's daf is sponsored by Margaret Ekstein in loving memory of Dr. Esther Ehrman z"l, "She was an inspiration in her love of learning Torah and a true inspiration as a model of ושננתם לבנך ודברת בם בשבתך בביתך בלכתך בדרך בשכבך ובקומך."

A source is brought to show that one if forbidden to benefit from chulin (an animal not designated for a sacrifice) slaughtered in the Temple. Contradictory sources are brought regarding Rabbi Shimon's position on chulin that were slaughtered in the Temple. How do we derive that if one were to sell an item that is forbidden to derive benefit from, and then use that money to betroth a woman, would the marriage would be valid? If one betroths with truma, it is valid. Does that teach us that tovat hana’a (the right of a person to choose to whom to give the truma) has monetary value? Apparently it does not, as the Mishna is referring to a case where a kohen passed on as an inheritance to his non-kohen grandson (son of his daughter) produce that was untithed, but we viewed it as if it was already tithed and therefore the grandson owns the truma. Is the issue of whether or not tovat hana’a has monetary value a tannaitic debate? Apparently not – as the source brought to prove that can be understood in four other manners. It is not possible to get paid to be a judge, a witness, or to sprinkle or sanctify the para aduma waters. Does this contradict our Mishna that one who betroths a woman with the water or the ashes, the betrothal is valid? If a man sent a messenger to betroth a certain woman and the messenger went and betrothed her to himself, the betrothal is valid. If a man betroths a woman on the condition that the betrothal takes place in thirty days and another comes and betroths her in the meantime, she is sanctified to the other.

 

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