"Nobody Comes Here To Hide": Remembering Bill Withers - a podcast by WNYC Studios

When I spoke with songwriting legend Bill Withers for the very first episode of Death, Sex& Money, we talked about what it is to be a man. He told me it might not be manly to say "I'm scared," but that being a man isn't about ignoring fear. "To me, courage is not not being afraid," he told me. "It's what you do in spite of being afraid."

Bill Withers died this week, at the age of 81.

At the end of our conversation, I asked him about what he was proud of, looking back at his life. He told me, "I could have done better but I did alright. That's the way I look at it." And he added, "The best advice anybody ever gave me was very simple: go make something out of yourself. So we do the best we can with that. But the whole goal of this is to try to make yourself interesting because nobody comes here to hide." 

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