Recode Decode: Brent Bushnell and Eric Gradman, Two Bit Circus Co-Founders - a podcast by The Verge

Two Bit Circus CEO Brent Bushnell and CTO Eric Gradman talk with Kara Swisher about their high-tech circus, STEAM Carnival; fixing education; and why playing games will break down kids' aversion to the sciences. Later, Lauren Goode finds out if the new BlackBerry Priv is good enough to challenge Kara's iPhone.
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