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The Persuasion Occasion

Welcome to the Persuasion Occasion.

Hosted by Perkins Coie Consumer Products and Services litigators David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, each episode features a conversation with noted professionals about achieving success in disputes and negotiations. The discussions are not limited to the legal realm, as success demands incorporating teachings from a breadth of perspectives. David, a baby boomer, and Jasmine, a millennial, enhance the discussions with their multigenerational perspectives.

Episode guests include negotiators and behavioral scientists. They provide practical advice, real world examples, and thoughtful strategies for surmounting the inevitable hurdles encountered in the worlds of litigation, business, and life.

At the end of the day, isn’t life a series of disputes and negotiations? Legal professionals, industry leaders, or simply those with curious minds are invited to join David and Jasmine in these explorations.

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Nonverbal Persuasion with Abbie Maroño from 2023-12-07T11:00:03

This week on The Persuasion Occasion, Jasmine and David communicate (they don’t just talk) with Abbie Maroño, Ph.D., a body language expert, about how we transmit signals with body language, facial...

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Welcome to the Persuasion Occasion from 2023-11-01T16:56:22

Hosted by Perkins Coie Consumer Products and Services litigators David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, each episode features a conversation with noted professionals about achieving success in dispu...

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Mastering the Art of Negotiation with Gary Noesner from 2023-11-01T16:36:14

The Persuasion Occasion brings together a wide range of experts to talk with David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, a boomer and a millennial, about how to be more persuasive.

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Jodi Daniels: CEO of Red Clover Advisors and Justin Daniels: Cybersecurity Expert | Privacy as an Asset not an Afterthought - Episode 48 from 2022-03-14T19:07:54

Jodi Daniels, CEO of Red Clover Advisors and Justin Daniels, cybersecurity expert, join Dominique and David to discuss why businesses are still not deliberate in designing privacy and security prac...

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Vineet Singal: CEO of CareMessage | Using Data to Help Underserved Populations - Episode 47 from 2022-03-07T17:57:43

Vineet Singal, co-founder and CEO of CareMessage, a messaging platform for health safety net organizations, joins Dominique and David to share why he created CareMessage out of his original work in...

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Daniella Ballou-Aares: CEO of The Leadership Now Project | The Impact of Business on Democracy and Voting Rights - Episode 46 from 2022-02-28T23:26:41

Daniella Ballou-Aares, CEO & Co-Founder of the Leadership Now Project and a Senior Advisor at Dalberg, joins David to discuss how corporate CEOs and corporations are taking direct action to support...

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Devin Banerjee: Editor At Large at LinkedIn | The Expanding Interest in Digital Assets - Episode 45 from 2022-02-17T22:49:35

Devin Banerjee, editor at large at LinkedIn News, joins Dominique and David to share his passion for business journalism. He discusses how writing business articles and updates for a social media c...

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Nishant Bhajaria: Head of Technical Privacy and Governance at Uber | Making Privacy a Priority - Episode 44 from 2022-02-11T18:16:42

Nishant Bhajaria, head of technical privacy and governance at Uber, joins David and Dominique to discuss how he has helped companies focus on data privacy. He outlines reputational risk versus bett...

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Ben Strick: Digital Investigator | Building an Unbiased Blueprint for Open Source Information - Episode 43 from 2022-02-03T18:57:16

Ben Strick, director of investigations for the Centre for Information Resilience and Myanmar Witness, joins David Biderman and Dominique Shelton Leipzig to share how his team uses investigative tec...

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James Xie: Pediatrician and Pediatric Anesthesiologist at Stanford University School of Medicine | Using Data to Move Healthcare Forward from 2022-01-21T21:33:46

Dr. James Xie, a clinical informatics physician (CI-MD) and Epic physician builder at Stanford Children's Health, joins David and Dominique to discuss how his education in computer science and work...

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Martin Innes: Director of The Crime and Security Research Institute at Cardiff University | Detecting Russian Disinformation Campaigns from 2022-01-06T22:00:53

Professor Martin Innes, director of the Crime and Security Research Institute at Cardiff University, joins Dominique and David to share how he and his team have documented the infiltration of high-...

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Dr. Johnny Ryan: Senior Fellow at The Irish Council for Civil Liberties | Fighting for Digital Rights - Episode 40 from 2022-01-06T18:41:13

Dr. Johnny Ryan joins David and Dominique to discuss why, from his perspective, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) in Europe should have been one of the most important global privacy law...

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Jorge Contreras: Professor of Property Law and Genetics | Who Owns Your DNA? - Episode 39 from 2021-12-22T17:00:14

Jorge Contreras, professor of property law and genetics at the University of Utah, joins Dominique and David to describe his latest book, The Genome Defense. The book reads like a detective novel a...

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Dr. Johnny Ryan: Senior Fellow at The Irish Council for Civil Liberties | Fighting for Digital Rights - Episode 38 from 2021-12-16T21:09:35

Dr. Johnny Ryan joins David Biderman and Dominique Shelton Leipzig to discuss why, from his perspective, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) in Europe should have been one of the most imp...

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Daniel Barber: CEO of DataGrail | What Are Companies Doing to Protect Your Data? - Episode 37 from 2021-12-03T23:37:53

Daniel Barber, CEO of DataGrail, joins Dominique and David to describe how he sees company compliance with the GDPR and CCPA, oversights, mistakes, and best practices. He delves into the disconnect...

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Crypto Currency’s Inevitable Entry into the Mainstream Economy | A Conversation with Congressman Darren Soto of Florida’s 9th District from 2021-11-12T17:23:32

U.S. Congressman Darren Soto joins David to tell us what Congress is doing to regulate crypto currency and its inevitable introduction into the mainstream economy. From the hardware store down the...

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Bastian Purrer and Namik Muduroglu: Founders of humanID | The Future of Online Authentication - Episode 35 from 2021-10-27T21:03:42

Bastian Purrer and Namik Muduroglu join David and Dominique on Decrypted Unscripted as they describe how political parties internationally are using bot networks to attack elections and to spread f...

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Jules Polonetsky: CEO of the Future of Privacy Forum | The Future of Privacy in the US - Episode 34 from 2021-10-05T20:38:37

Jules Polonetsky joins David and Dominique on Decrypted Unscripted to share his insights on data tracking and the vast changes in the public perception of internet privacy. They discuss challenges ...

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Bill Marczak: Fellow at Citizen Lab/Co-Founder of Bahrain Watch | The Global Impact of International Spyware Abuses - Episode 33 from 2021-09-24T18:27:46

Bill Marczak joins David Biderman on Decrypted Unscripted to discuss why he focuses on nation-state use of big data analysis as well as more targeted surveillance. He tells the story of his work wi...

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Philip Reiner: CEO of The Institute for Security and Technology | Strategies for Establishing Basic Internet Security - Episode 32 from 2021-09-16T20:46:41

With the recent attacks on the Colonial Pipeline and JBS Food, ransomware has become a serious national security issue. Join Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman in a discussion with Philip...

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Anja Shortland: Professor of Political Economy at King’s College London | Weighing the Economics of Crime in the Ransomware Context - E31 from 2021-09-02T14:00:09

Anja Shortland joins Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman to discuss how the underground ransomware ecosystem functions and why cybersecurity experts have created a scale to define the reli...

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Anja Shortland: Professor of Political Economy at King’s College London | Weighing the Economics of Crime in the Ransomware Context - E31 from 2021-09-02T14:00:09

Anja Shortland joins Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman to discuss how the underground ransomware ecosystem functions and why cybersecurity experts have created a scale to define the reli...

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Los Angeles Police Commission- Using Technology to Reimagine Policy - Bonus Episode 31 Response to Episode 30 from 2021-08-20T18:29:51

Join Dominique Shelton Leipzig and Los Angeles Police Commission President Eileen Decker in an illuminating perspective on the Commission’s use of automated license plate reader (APLR) technology. ...

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NYU Policing Project – Using Technology to Reimagine Policy - Episode 30 from 2021-08-17T21:52:56

Join Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman in their fascinating conversation with New York University Law School Professor Barry Friedman, as he discusses his work founding the Policing Proj...

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Howard Wu&Sina Kian: Privacy and Blockchain - Episode 29 from 2021-08-05T18:02:59

Join Dominique and David and their guests Howard Wu and Sina Kian of Aleo. Howard and Sina care about privacy and the dangers of blockchain transparency. They describe how they have used Zero Knowl...

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Gillian Tett: Editor of the Financial Times / Anthropology and Digging Behind the Numbers - Episode 28 from 2021-07-30T16:17:46

Join Dominique and David as they speak with Gillian Tett, Chair of the Editorial Board and Editor-at-Large US of the Financial Times, about her new book, Anthro-Vision which describes vividly how b...

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Kurtis Minder: Ransomware Negotiator and CEO of Group Sense | What To Do When Your Data’s Being Held Ransom - Episode 27 from 2021-07-22T18:17:48

Kurtis Minder is the founder and CEO of GroupSense. He is one of very few with significant experience negotiating with the “bad guys” during ransomware attacks. GroupSense offers digital risk prote...

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Kurtis Minder: Ransomware Negotiator and CEO of Group Sense | What To Do When Your Data’s Being Held Ransom - Episode 27 from 2021-07-22T18:17:48

Kurtis Minder is the founder and CEO of GroupSense. He is one of very few with significant experience negotiating with the “bad guys” during ransomware attacks. GroupSense offers digital risk prote...

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Ransomware and Cyberattacks: A Conversation With Cyber Expert Vinu Nair - Episode 26 from 2021-07-16T01:18:17

In this conversation, Dominique and David talk with cybersecurity expert Vinu Nair who works for one of the world’s largest cyber insurers. Vinu discusses not only the trends for preventing cybera...

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Privacy, Genomics, Covid-19 and Vaccines – Episode 25 from 2021-06-16T18:41:25

CSI meets CCPA and you will love it. Dr. Mason is a world leader in genetic mapping and genomics and professor of Physiology and Biophysics, and Computational Genomics at Weill Cornell Medical Col...

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Privacy, Genomics, Covid-19 and Vaccines – Episode 25 from 2021-06-16T18:41:25

CSI meets CCPA and you will love it. Dr. Mason is a world leader in genetic mapping and genomics and professor of Physiology and Biophysics, and Computational Genomics at Weill Cornell Medical Col...

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Facial Recognition or Misidentification - Episode 24 from 2021-06-01T22:03:25

Massachusetts Activist Kade Crockford at the ACLU described to David and Dominique how Kade worked with Boston Celtics players to Urge Social Justice and Anti-Discrimination in that state’s facial...

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Privacy and Cybersecurity: Working Together to Protect the Internet - Episode 23 from 2021-05-27T23:48:37

Dominique and David speak to Perkins Coie alumni, Jim Sfekas. Jim left Perkins to join Microsoft in 2012 and now leads Microsoft’s cybersecurity legal function. Jim talks about the tensions betwe...

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Privacy and Financial Institutions - Episode 22 from 2021-05-18T15:40:47

Join Dave Biderman and Dominique Shelton Leipzig in a discussion with Ron Whitworth, chief privacy officer of Truist, one of the largest financial institutions in the United States. Ron will share ...

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US Privacy—Where Do We Go From Here? - Episode 21 from 2021-05-04T22:40:41

Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman have an inspiring conversation with Jessica Rich, the former head of the Commercial Division of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and a current profess...

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How Google is Helping Address COVID-19 Around the World - Episode 20 from 2021-04-26T20:22:27

Dominique Shelton Leipzig and David Biderman meet with Google’s Chief Privacy Officer Keith Enright, one of the world’s most engaged privacy officers. Their conversation includes a discussion of Go...

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Privacy and Litigation from the Plaintiff’s Perspective - Episode 19 from 2021-04-17T04:39:09

Do you own a company and ever worry about whether our practices are meeting new privacy laws. You are not alone. There are 142 + countries with data protection laws around the globe. US is one of ...

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Online Privacy and Eliminating Child Sexual Abuse Materials From the Internet - Episode 18 from 2021-04-13T15:36:02

Join us for a gripping conversation with Julie Cordua, chief executive officer of Thorn, an anti-human trafficking organization founded by Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. Thorn’s mission is to devel...

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Privacy and Professional Social Networking - Episode 17 from 2021-04-03T00:47:48

Join Dominique and David in a wide-ranging conversation with Kalinda Raina, vice president, chief privacy officer for LinkedIn, the world’s leading professional social networking site. Their discus...

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Protecting Privacy for a Global Leader in Biotech - Episode 16 from 2021-03-25T21:26:07

Zoe Philippides was the Chief Privacy Officer of Amgen, a Southern California pharmaceutical company focused on developing state-of-the-art treatments and drugs. She is now the Chief Privacy Offic...

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Technology, Privacy and Healthcare - Episode 15 from 2021-03-18T15:35:39

COVID-19 has made it clear that the future of health is technology. From apps and contact tracing to websites announcing virus testing and vaccines, technology is at the core. In this episode, Dav...

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Society and Data—On Which Side of History Do We Want to Be? - Episode 14 from 2021-03-11T16:34:38

Join Dominique and David as they talk with Jim Steyer, the founder of Commonsense Media (https://www.commonsensemedia.org/), a Stanfo...

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AI and Bias—Methods of Math Destruction, Social Dilemma, and Beyond - Episode 13 from 2021-03-02T17:59:56

Hear The Social Dilemma star and former corporate data scientist, Cathy O’Neil, speak with Dominique and David about why society needs to look behind the numbers with AI! Check out Cathy’s book, We...

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Privacy and Professional Basketball - Episode 12 from 2021-02-12T00:51:02

Dallas Mavericks General Counsel Sekou Lewis speaks with Dave and Dominique about his journey to privacy via professional sports. This candid discussion regarding technology, professional basketbal...

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Free Internet in Jeopardy? Ad Tech at a Crossroads - Episode 11 from 2021-01-26T23:43:13

Consumers across the globe are raising questions about how their data is used for advertising. Movies like The Social Network have raised questions about the use of consumer behavior as “the produc...

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The Federal Landscape: An Unguarded Discussion About Privacy From Inside the Beltway - Episode 10 from 2020-12-11T01:56:04

Hear Dominique and David’s conversation with John Verdi, the head of policy for the Future of Privacy Forum and a consummate Washington, D.C., insider. How does D.C. view developments in California...

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Privacy in the Retail Industry - Episode 9 from 2020-11-18T16:05:12

Hear Brennan Duckett of the Retail Industry Leaders Association (RILA) discuss the top privacy priorities for leading retailers in the United States and share his insights on privacy policy on Capi...

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California Chamber of Commerce Leads The Way for Business and Privacy - Episode 8 from 2020-11-03T18:52:50

In this episode, the chief representative of the California business community speaks about privacy, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), and California’s technology industry.
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Around the World in 30 Days: Brazil’s LGPD to California’s CCPA and CPRA - Episode 7 from 2020-10-29T00:00:36

Listen to David and Dominique in conversation with Dirceu Santa Rosa. As the International Association of Privacy Professional’s country leader for Brazil and partner at a Brazilian law firm, Dirce...

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Entertainment Meets Privacy and Cyber – Episode 6 from 2020-10-14T22:34:46

Join Dominique and David as they discuss the future of privacy for entertainment companies with Leslie Shanklin, the head of privacy for the global entertainment company, Discovery, Inc. Leslie dis...

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California Privacy Dreaming: The CCPA and the New Ballot Initiative CPRA (Proposition 24) Break New Ground – Episode 5 from 2020-10-07T19:22:41

Join Dominique Shelton Leipzig, Perkins Coie Privacy & Security partner, David Biderman, Perkins Coie Class Action Defense partner, and Alastair Mactaggart, board chair and founder of Californians ...

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First Amendment Rights and Digital Platforms – September 15 Groundbreaking Development in the EU - Episode 4 from 2020-10-02T14:00:14

Hear plaintiff’s attorney, Dan Shefet, explain how his proposal for an ombudsman has been adopted by the EU Council as of September 15, and what it means for companies with global obligations, incl...

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The Collision of Corporate Reputation, Crisis&Cybersecurity - Episode 3 from 2020-10-01T17:16:35

Listen to Dominique and David have a conversation with David Chamberlin, a renowned crisis communications expert who has handled difficult communications from the public to the C-suite and boardroo...

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Privacy and Politics, a conversation with Marc Elias - Episode 2 from 2020-09-25T17:56:38

Listen to Dominique and David talk to their colleague, Marc Elias, who represents the DNC in nationwide voting rights litigation. Given that data breach/leaks were such a big part of the 2016 elect...

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Privacy and Politics, a conversation with Marc Elias - Episode 2 from 2020-09-25T17:56:38

Listen to Dominique and David talk to their colleague, Marc Elias, who represents the DNC in nationwide voting rights litigation. Given that data breach/leaks were such a big part of the 2016 elect...

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Series Teaser - Episode 1 from 2020-09-24T21:22:46

Data is the new gold. In the era of COVID-19, companies that have mastered the digital landscape will lead the way to reopening economies across the globe. In Decrypted Unscripted, we examine the...

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