The race to contact trace - a podcast by ABC Radio

Ever think about how many germs live on your phone? This week on DTS, we'll talk you through the best way to clean it. Plus, Australia weighs up contact tracing apps, while Google and Apple join the fray. And e-sports are getting a boon from our social isolation, but does it still suck? Guests: Tegan Jones, Editor, Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes + Matt Hopkins, Senior Native Content Manager, Pedestrian Daily @mopkins88

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