The Greatest: Ken Burns, Sarah Burns, and David McMahon on Muhammad Ali - a podcast by Dave Zirin / The Nation

On September 19, PBS will debut the new documentary “Muhammad Ali” by Ken Burns, Sarah Burns, and David McMahon. This week we speak to them about how to bring a larger than life figure back down to earth and what they learned from the project. 

We also have “Choice Words” about the IOC’s shocking and casual display of anti-Asian racism from Thomas Bach. In addition, we have “Just Stand Up” and “Just Sit Down” awards to ESPN personality Jay Williams and NFL Network's Rich Eisen for speaking out about the need to get vaccinated and ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith for his stupid and bigoted comments about baseball sensation Shohei Ohtani and the Nigerian olympic basketball team. We also have a tribute to Hip-Hop legend Biz Markie, who recently passed. All this and more on this week’s show!

Ken Burns

Twitter: @KenBurns

Sarah Burns

Twitter: @sarah_l_burns 

Dave McMahon

Twitter: @DavidMMcMahon

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