Podcast 053 – Needle vs. Knife: Part I - a podcast by Scott D. Weingart, MD FCCM

Needle or the Knife for the Cricothyrotomy

In this episode, I debate Minh Le Cong, a retrieval physician from Australia. The question is what technique should we use in the can't intubate/can't oxygenate (CICO) situation.



Throughout the podcast, you will hear reference to Dr. Andrew Heard, who has written some fantastic papers on the subject. Perhaps most pertinent is his description of the formation of a CICO protocol based on his experience with a wet sheep airway instruction lab.

Heard AM, Green RJ, Eakins P. The formulation and introduction of a 'can't intubate, can't ventilate' algorithm into clinical practice. Anaesthesia. 2009 Jun;64(6):601-8.

 



Here is the algorithm from the paper (Click for full size)







Here is his video on the cannula cricothyrotomy technique



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzf29LT6VJQ



Here is his video on the scalpel-finger-cannula technique



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waGiiEyzqX8



Here is a video describing why Dr. Heard prefers the 14G Insyte Catheter for Needle Cric



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_k_zJEYYrE



Here is his preferred method for oxygenation through the cannula







And here is the jet ventilation video:







The paper on the use of ultrasound to find the cricothyroid membrane is quite interesting.



See my prior posts on how to perform the bougie-aided cricothyrotomy and the cric show.



One of the best things Minh expressed is the need to say OUT LOUD: "This is a can't intubate/can't oxygenate situation." Saying it out loud lets everyone in the room know, there will be no more screwing around with attempts at direct laryngoscopy.



Go to the Broome Docs Blog for more Minh Le Cong.



He is an incredible guy, expect to hear more from Minh on the podcast.



I also gave a shout-out to a new podcast, the Emergency Ultrasound Podcast.

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