Working it out with Andrew McMillan - a podcast by End of All Things podcast

In this episode, Rob talks to the winner of the last ever Guardian First Book Award, Andrew McMillan, on "modern male anxieties" as the Guardian puts it, working out in gyms, trying to write like Jon McGregor, Creative Writing MAs (again), Horror as a gateway drug (again), and what it's like growing up Gay in Barnsley.

NOTE: This was recorded before the terrible homophobic nightclub shooting in Orlando, which is why we don't talk about it in the interview and why I don't mention it in the intro.

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