Podcasts by EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder
Eradicating Smallpox: The Heroes that Wiped out a 3,000-Year-Old Virus
One of humanity’s greatest triumphs is the eradication of smallpox. This new eight-episode docuseries, “Eradicating Smallpox,” explores this remarkable feat and uncovers striking parallels and contrasts to recent history in the shadows of the covid-19 pandemic.
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S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Tom Frieden from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.995135
Our special guest this week is Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the U...
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S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Greg Asbed&Jeneen Interlandi from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.971797
"People who don’t have access to medical care, people who don’...
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S1E9 / Did Anybody See This Coming? / Juliette Kayyem from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.968190
"It’s not an on/off switch. We are living with coro...
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S1E16 / Good and Bad Bosses / Adam Grant, William Kassler, Katie McGrath from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.954154
“We’re not working from home becaus...
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S1E17 / Getting Prepared / John Lynch, Syra Madad, Reid Wilson from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.950935
“We want to make sure everybody's prepared be...
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S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkeley&Peter Hotez from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.900899
“Terrible diseases like smallpox, polio, yellow fever ...
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S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, Jamescita Peshlakai from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.898502
“I think there's always sort ...
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S1E27 / Convalescent Plasma / Arturo Casadevall&Michael Busch from 2023-12-13T18:19:05.895462
“With penicillin, for example, you needed a few days to begin to get better. With antibodies, th...
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Trailer: Epidemic Season 2 — Eradicating Smallpox from 2023-11-29T20:49:00.141870
"Eradicating Smallpox” is a journey to South Asia, the site of the last days of variola major smallpox. Many epidemiologists and global health leaders thought that ending smallpox was impossible...
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S2E2 / Do You Know Dutta? from 2023-11-29T20:49:00.138664
By the mid-1970s, India’s smallpox eradication campaign had been grinding for over a decade. But the virus was still spreading beyond control. It was time to take a new, more targeted approach.<...
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S2E8 / The Scars of Smallpox from 2023-11-29T20:49:00.071941
In 1975, smallpox eradication workers in the capital of Bangladesh, Dhaka, rushed to a village in the south of the country called Kuralia. They were abuzz and the journey was urgent because they...
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S2E7 / What Good Is a Vaccine When There Is No Rice? from 2023-10-24T09:00
The 1970s was the deadliest decade in the “entire history of Bangladesh,” said environmental historian Iftekhar Iqbal. A deadly cyclone, a bloody liberation war, and famine triggered waves of mi...
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S2E6 / Bodies Remember What Was Done to Them from 2023-10-10T09:00
Global fears of overpopulation in the ’60s and ’70s helped fuel India’s campaign to slow population growth. Health workers tasked to encourage family planning were dispatched throughout the coun...
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S2E5 / The Tata Way from 2023-09-26T09:00
In spring 1974, over a dozen smallpox outbreaks sprang up throughout the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. Determined to find the source of the cases, American smallpox eradication worker Larry Br...
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S2E4 / Speedboat Epidemiology from 2023-08-29T09:00
Shahidul Haq Khan, a Bangladeshi health worker, and Tim Miner, an American with the World Health Organization, worked together on a smallpox eradication team in Bangladesh in the early 1970s. Th...
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S2E3 / Zero Pox! from 2023-08-15T09:00
In 1973, Bhakti Dastane arrived in Bihar, India, to join the smallpox eradication campaign. She was a year out of medical school and had never cared for anyone with the virus. She believed she w...
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S2E1 / The Goddess of Smallpox from 2023-07-18T09:00
In the mid-’60s, the national campaign to eradicate smallpox in India was underway, but the virus was still widespread throughout the country. At the time, Dinesh Bhadani was a small boy living ...
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S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Greg Asbed&Jeneen Interlandi from 2022-03-07T06:29:35.701596
"People who don’t have access to medical care, people who don’...
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S1E25 / A COVID Vaccine / Seth Berkeley&Peter Hotez from 2022-03-07T06:29:35.649517
“Terrible diseases like smallpox, polio, yellow fever ...
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S1E16 / Good and Bad Bosses / Adam Grant, William Kassler, Katie McGrath from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.780809
“We’re not working from home because we want to. Many of us are working from home because we have to. We are all thrust into this social distancing as a result of the pandemic, and in a very short ...
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S1E17 / Getting Prepared / John Lynch, Syra Madad, Reid Wilson from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.779136
“We want to make sure everybody's prepared because we know COVID 19 is just one epidemic that we're currently facing. There's going to be another one in the pipeline, and we need to make sure that ...
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S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, Jamescita Peshlakai from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.696838
“I think there's always sort of like Indian humor with everything and so there were a lot of people making jokes about Trump putting a travel ban in place to stop the spread of disease from Europe....
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S1E27 / Convalescent Plasma / Arturo Casadevall & Michael Busch from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.695904
“With penicillin, for example, you needed a few days to begin to get better. With antibodies, these people got better within hours, almost as if the antibody was mediating an antitoxin effect.” - A...
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S1E33 / The Privilege of Immunity / Kathryn Olivarius, Juanita Mora, Esha Bhandari from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.689980
“An immunity passport system would create a two-tier system because it would divide all of us into those who are immune to COVID-19 and those who are not. And the people who are immune will get all...
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S1E41 / Back to Campus / Allison Slater-Tate, Amy Gorin, Eleanor Daugherty, Rochelle Walensky from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.682601
“If we want to bring students back to college, we have to redefine what college is for the short term… and so we need to think about it with more innovation and depth of thought if we would if we w...
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S1E45 / In for the Long-haul / Diana Berrent, Eli Musser, Marcus Tomoff, Marjorie Roberts from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.678748
“It's not like the straight trajectory towards recovery… It very feels very much like a one step forward, two steps back. People referred to it as the Corona coaster, because you don't know where i...
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S1E46 / Vote Like Your Health Depends on It / Alister Martin, Betsy Hoover, Ralph Noyes from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.677924
"Healthcare is political. There's a difference between politics and partisanship. Thinking about healthcare as not being political I think is where many doctors and unfortunately our healthcare sys...
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S1E50 / The Post-Pandemic College Experience / Scott Galloway & Michael D. Smith from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.667578
"There's this toxic cocktail of low endowment per student, high tuition, low experience, low certification... Those universities could be out of business in a year." - Scott Galloway
Coron...
S1E53 / The Vaccines are Coming / Kizzmekia Corbett, Sree Chaguturu, Julie Rosenberg from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.664914
"This, quite frankly, is our generation's Manhattan project" -Sree Chaguturu
This has been a big week for vaccines. There are two vaccines under review by the FDA and the United Kingdom ha...
S1E56 / Flattening the Infodemic Curve / Claire Wardle, John Cook, Renee DiResta from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.661867
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"That's the challenge with infodemics: too much information and not knowing who to trust." - Claire Wardle
Combating misinformation has become more important than ever ...
S1E60 / On the Hunt for the Next Pandemic Virus / Tony Goldberg, Adam Bailey, Jennifer Gardy, Sagan Friant from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.658157
"When we interact with nature there are unpredictable and weird mechanisms by which pathogens might be able to move between the species." -Tony Goldberg
There’s a lot we don’t know about t...
S1E64 / The Origins of Vaccine Hesitancy / Jonathan Berman, Nadja Durbach and Michael Willrich from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.654377
"Every generation has generated its own anti-vaccinationism based on very similar concerns." -Jonathan Berman
Vaccines are a safe and critical public health tool. They prevent crippling ch...
S1E68 / Medical Racism Past and Present / Vanessa Northington Gamble, Harriet Washington, Rueben Warren from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.650683
"We have to have a conversation where we take people's fears seriously and try to figure out what is going on there." -Vanessa Gamble
Black Americans are twice as likely to die from COVID...
S1E69 / With Us, For Us — Black Healthcare Workers Speak Out About Vaccine Safety / Jessica Anne Mitchell Aiwuyor, Rhea Boyd, Sandra Lindsay, Tierra Rich from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.649741
"This virus does not discriminate. The vaccine is what is going to help to get us out of this crisis and stop the depth and the harm and the pain, which is what we're suffering two to three times m...
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S1E73 / Getting on the Right Side of Conservatives and Vaccines / Former Governor Chris Christie & Brian Castrucci from 2022-02-21T12:40:19.646079
"What we really need to be doing is not belittle people. Don't wag your finger at them. Don't make them feel stupid or small for not having gotten the vaccine yet. Talk to them about why it's safe....
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Trailer: American Diagnosis Season 4 — Rezilience from 2021-12-20T20:17:04
In the years leading up to the pandemic, Dr. Celine Gounder, the host of the EPIDEMIC and American Diagnosis podcasts, had the opportunity to care for patients part-time at several Indian Health Se...
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S1E33 / The "Privilege" of "Immunity" / Kathryn Olivarius, Juanita Mora, and Esha Bhandari from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.324170
“An immunity passport system would create a two-tier system because it would divide all of us into those who are immune to COVID-19 and those who are not. And the people who are immune will get all...
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S1E41 / Back to Campus / Allison Slater Tate, Eleanor Daugherty, Amy Gorin, and Rochelle Walensky from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.317415
“If we want to bring students back to college, we have to redefine what college is for the short term… and so we need to think about it with more innovation and depth of thought if we would if we w...
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S1E45 / In for the Long-haul / Diana Berrent, Eli Musser, Marjorie Roberts, and Marcus Tomoff from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.314268
“It's not like the straight trajectory towards recovery… It very feels very much like a one step forward, two steps back. People referred to it as the Corona coaster, because you don't know where i...
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S1E46 / Vote Like Your Health Depends on It / Ralph Noyes, Alister Martin, Betsy Hoover, and Shola Farber from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.313504
"Healthcare is political. There's a difference between politics and partisanship. Thinking about healthcare as not being political I think is where many doctors and unfortunately our healthcare sys...
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S1E50 / The Post-Pandemic College Experience / Scott Galloway and Michael D. Smith from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.310466
"There's this toxic cocktail of low endowment per student, high tuition, low experience, low certification... Those universities could be out of business in a year." - Scott Galloway
Coron...
S1E53 / The Vaccines are Coming / Kizzmekia Corbett, Sree Chaguturu, and Julie Rosenberg from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.308443
"This, quite frankly, is our generation's Manhattan project" -Sree Chaguturu
This has been a big week for vaccines. There are two vaccines under review by the FDA and the United Kingdom ha...
S1E56 / Flattening the Infodemic Curve / Claire Wardle, John Cook and Renee DiResta from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.306308
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"That's the challenge with infodemics: too much information and not knowing who to trust." - Claire Wardle
Combating misinformation has become more important than ever ...
S1E60 / On the Hunt for the Next Pandemic Virus / Tony Goldberg, Adam Bailey, Jennifer Gardy, and Sagan Friant from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.303573
"When we interact with nature there are unpredictable and weird mechanisms by which pathogens might be able to move between the species." -Tony Goldberg
There’s a lot we don’t know about t...
S1E68 / Medical Racism Past and Present / Vanessa Northington Gamble, Harriet Washington and Rueben Warren from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.296702
"We have to have a conversation where we take people's fears seriously and try to figure out what is going on there." -Vanessa Gamble
Black Americans are twice as likely to die from COVID...
S1E69 / With Us, For Us — Black Healthcare Workers Speak Out About Vaccine Safety / Jessica Anne Mitchell Aiwuyor, Rhea Boyd, Sandra Lindsay and Tierra Rich from 2021-07-06T04:44:53.295895
"This virus does not discriminate. The vaccine is what is going to help to get us out of this crisis and stop the depth and the harm and the pain, which is what we're suffering two to three times m...
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S1E80 / Vaccine Joy / Andy Slavitt & Celine Gounder from 2021-06-24T09:00
"It's a really interesting question: how do we get closure in this pandemic? I think a lot of people have hurt and loss that's not been acknowledged. I think acknowledging that loss is very import...
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S1E73 / Getting on the Right Side of Conservatives and Vaccines / Gov. Chris Christie and Brian Castrucci from 2021-06-17T16:22:36.952012
"What we really need to be doing is not belittle people. Don't wag your finger at them. Don't make them feel stupid or small for not having gotten the vaccine yet. Talk to them about why it's safe....
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S1E77 / Vaccination Verification: Ticket to Ride or Social Divide? / Albert Fox Cahn, Lawrence Gostin, Fatima Hassan & JP Pollak from 2021-06-17T16:22:36.948118
"When you're building a system like a vaccine passport you're potentially excluding millions of people because they don't have this thing that once was optional, but has now become indispensable." ...
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S1E79 / Women’s Health: Fertile Ground for COVID Myths / Andrea Edlow, Stephanie Gaw, Alice Lu-Culligan, Leena Mithal, Steve Stecklow from 2021-06-17T09:00
"Pregnant women who have SARS-CoV-2 are more likely to be admitted to the ICU, to need a ventilator and are more likely to die than women of the same age who are not pregnant. Pregnancy definitely...
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S1E78 / Caregiving as Infrastructure / Stephanie Coontz, Julie Morita, Erika Moritsugu, Sarah Murphy from 2021-06-10T09:00
"The pandemic has given us an opportunity to finally change this and if we don't, the economic impact from the fallout of women in the workforce is going to be devastating." -Erika Moritsugu
S1E78 / Caregiving as Infrastructure / Stephanie Coontz, Julie Morita, Erika Moritsugu and Sarah Murphy from 2021-06-10T09:00
"The pandemic has given us an opportunity to finally change this and if we don't, the economic impact from the fallout of women in the workforce is going to be devastating." -Erika Moritsugu
S1E76 / Vaccinating the World Part II: You Can’t Fight Scarcity with Scarcity / John Nkengasong, James Krellenstein, Chelsea Clinton & Peter Hotez from 2021-05-27T09:00
"You can't fight scarcity with scarcity. The only way out of the vaccine problem is by making a lot more of it." -James Krellenstein
India is the world's largest supplier of vaccines but t...
S1E75 / Vaccinating the World Part I: The Problem with Patents / Chris Morten, Prithi Krishtel & Rohit Malpani from 2021-05-20T09:00
"It's a triumph of science and engineering that we now have multiple effective COVID vaccines. We just need to find the political will to invest a bit more money and deploy them around the world." ...
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S1E74 / Techno-Racism & COVID at Home & Abroad / Mutale Nkonde, Corin Faife, Heidi Larson and Imran Ahmed from 2021-05-13T09:00
"They benefit from traffic no matter if it's good information or malignant misinformation. " -Imran Ahmed
During the pandemic, disinformation campaigns have been targeting people of color ...
S1E74 / Techno-Racism & COVID at Home & Abroad / Mutale Nkonde, Corin Faife, Heidi Larson, Imran Ahmed from 2021-05-13T09:00
"They benefit from traffic no matter if it's good information or malignant misinformation. " -Imran Ahmed
During the pandemic, disinformation campaigns have been targeting people of color ...
S1E72 / A World Wide Web of COVID Conspiracies / Graham Brookie, Devin Burghart, Bret Schafer and Judy Twigg from 2021-04-29T09:00
"Disinformation is a deliberate falsehood put out to mislead an audience. But what we see more of are true bits of information where necessary context has been removed or manipulated in a way that ...
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S1E72 / A World Wide Web of COVID Conspiracies / Graham Brookie, Devin Burghart, Bret Schafer, Judy Twigg from 2021-04-29T09:00
"Disinformation is a deliberate falsehood put out to mislead an audience. But what we see more of are true bits of information where necessary context has been removed or manipulated in a way that ...
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S1E71 / Is SARS CoV-2 Here to Stay? / Jennie Lavine, Angela Rasmussen and Jeffrey Shaman from 2021-04-22T09:00
"I don't think that herd immunity is a possibility for SARS CoV-2. I think there's going to be a different kind of equilibrium that we reach in the future where humans and SARS-CoV-2 co-exist in a ...
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S1E71 / Is SARS CoV-2 Here to Stay? / Jennie Lavine, Angela Rasmussen, Jeffrey Shaman from 2021-04-22T09:00
"I don't think that herd immunity is a possibility for SARS CoV-2. I think there's going to be a different kind of equilibrium that we reach in the future where humans and SARS-CoV-2 co-exist in a ...
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S1E70 / Country In-Roads: Building Vaccine Confidence in Rural America / Elizabeth Ellis, Dana Friend, Anna Loge and Chris Martin from 2021-04-15T09:00
"The messaging that we've done in West Virginia is, look, we are leading the country, and that has really given people a sense that we can dispel a lot of negative stereotypes. We can be a world le...
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S1E70 / Country In-Roads: Building Vaccine Confidence in Rural America / Elizabeth Ellis, Dana Friend, Anna Loge, Chris Martin from 2021-04-15T09:00
"The messaging that we've done in West Virginia is, look, we are leading the country, and that has really given people a sense that we can dispel a lot of negative stereotypes. We can be a world le...
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S1E67 / Past Is Prologue: Epidemics & Anti-Asian Xenophobia / Toby Chow, Merlin Chowkwanyun, David Randall from 2021-03-25T09:00
"I think a lot of people don't understand how fearful Chinese Americans and other Asian Americans are in this moment" -Toby Chow
On March 16, a gunman in Atlanta killed eight people. ...
S1E66 / Brazil’s P.1 Variant — the Limits of Herd Immunity / Felipe Naveca and Ester Sabino from 2021-03-18T09:00
"This is an invisible war and if we don't use our weapons we are not going to win it." -Ester Sabino
In the fall of 2020, the Brazilian city of Manaus had the highest SARS CoV-2 infection ...
S1E66 / Brazil’s P.1 Variant — the Limits of Natural Herd Immunity / Felipe Naveca & Ester Sabino from 2021-03-18T09:00
"This is an invisible war and if we don't use our weapons we are not going to win it." -Ester Sabino
In the fall of 2020, the Brazilian city of Manaus had the highest SARS CoV-2 infection ...
S1E66 / Brazil’s P.1 Variant — the Limits of Natural Herd Immunity / Felipe Naveca and Ester Sabino from 2021-03-18T09:00
"This is an invisible war and if we don't use our weapons we are not going to win it." -Ester Sabino
In the fall of 2020, the Brazilian city of Manaus had the highest SARS CoV-2 infection ...
S1E65 / Vaccines and Motherly Love / Heather Simpson, Elena Conis, Rebecca Onion, and Jonathan Berman from 2021-03-11T10:00
"We easily have never had as high a level of vaccination acceptance as we have now but we've asked a lot more of the public. The resistance that we see today is a response, in part, to that compou...
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S1E65 / Vaccines and Motherly Love / Heather Simpson, Elena Conis, Rebecca Onion, Jonathan Berman from 2021-03-11T10:00
"We easily have never had as high a level of vaccination acceptance as we have now but we've asked a lot more of the public. The resistance that we see today is a response, in part, to that compou...
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S1E63 / Chasing the Cure / David Fajgenbaum from 2021-02-25T10:00
"When we think about a virus we don't think as much about the immune response to the virus but it is just so, so critical." -David Fajgenbaum
Where do treatments come from when there's a n...
S1E62 / Rise of the South Africa Variant / Salim Abdool Karim, Richard Lessells, Jinal Bhiman, and Allison Greaney from 2021-02-18T11:00
"It just shows how difficult it is to be reactive with this virus. By the time you've detected something and understood the significance of it you're already several steps behind the virus." -Richa...
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S1E62 / South Africa’s B.1.351 Variant — Immunity-Evading / Salim Abdool Karim, Richard Lessells, Jinal Bhiman, and Allison Greaney from 2021-02-18T10:00
"It just shows how difficult it is to be reactive with this virus. By the time you've detected something and understood the significance of it you're already several steps behind the virus." -Richa...
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S1E62 / South Africa’s B.1.351 Variant — Immunity-Evading / Salim Abdool Karim, Richard Lessells, Jinal Bhiman, Allison Greaney from 2021-02-18T10:00
"It just shows how difficult it is to be reactive with this virus. By the time you've detected something and understood the significance of it you're already several steps behind the virus." -Richa...
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S1E61 / A More Contagious and Virulent Variant (UK edition) / Andrew Hayward, Trevor Bedford, Gard Nelson, and Graham Medley from 2021-02-11T11:00
"I had been assuming that my life and everyone else's life would get closer to normal in March. This [variant] has me worried that it won't be March, that we'll have a spring wave and I don't know ...
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S1E61 / The UK’s B.1.1.7 Variant — More Contagious and Virulent / Andrew Hayward, Trevor Bedford, Gard Nelson, and Graham Medley from 2021-02-11T10:00
"I had been assuming that my life and everyone else's life would get closer to normal in March. This [variant] has me worried that it won't be March, that we'll have a spring wave and I don't know ...
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S1E61 / The UK’s B.1.1.7 Variant — More Contagious and Virulent / Andrew Hayward, Trevor Bedford, Gard Nelson, Graham Medley from 2021-02-11T10:00
"I had been assuming that my life and everyone else's life would get closer to normal in March. This [variant] has me worried that it won't be March, that we'll have a spring wave and I don't know ...
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S1E49 / Lessons from the Zombie Apocalypse / Coltan Scrivner, David Schneider, and Robert Wonser from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
"We have this long history of seeking personal and individual solutions to public problems and I think the zombie films highlight that." - Robert Wonser From Night of the Living Dead, to 28 Days L...
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S1E45 / In for the Long-haul / Diana Berrent, Eli Musser, Marjorie Roberts, Marcus Tomoff from 2021-01-31T22:10:42.023393
“It's not like the straight trajectory towards recovery… It very feels very much like a one step forward, two steps back. People referred to it as the Corona coaster, because you don't know where i...
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S1E59 / A Perfect Storm for Depression - Deaths of Despair Part II / Anne Case and Roy Perlis from 2021-01-28T10:00
"This is not like a lot of the other disasters that people have studied. It looks a lot more like what you'd expect to see in people who have lived through a war. " -Roy Perlis
This is the...
S1E59 / A Perfect Storm for Depression – Deaths of Despair Pt II / Anne Case & Roy Perlis from 2021-01-28T10:00
"This is not like a lot of the other disasters that people have studied. It looks a lot more like what you'd expect to see in people who have lived through a war. " -Roy Perlis
This is the...
S1E58 / An Overdose Epidemic - Deaths of Despair Part I / Sandra Lindie, Will Cooke, Jennifer Fecu from 2021-01-21T10:00
"When the pandemic hit, many of our recovery groups went online but that's really not the same. All that great work we had been building momentum towards came to a screeching halt." -Will Cooke
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S1E58 / An Overdose Epidemic – Deaths of Despair Pt I / Sandra Lindie, Will Cooke, Jennifer Fecu from 2021-01-21T10:00
"When the pandemic hit, many of our recovery groups went online but that's really not the same. All that great work we had been building momentum towards came to a screeching halt." -Will Cooke
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S1E57 / Disrupting Restaurants Part II / Amanda Cohen, Saru Jayarmana and Pete Ternes from 2021-01-14T10:00
"It's my responsibility as an owner to figure out how to afford to pay everyone an ethical, fair, livable wage but we have to start from the premise of paying them an ethical, livable wage" -Pete T...
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S1E57 / Disrupting Restaurants Part II / Amanda Cohen, Saru Jayarmanan, Pete Ternes from 2021-01-14T10:00
"It's my responsibility as an owner to figure out how to afford to pay everyone an ethical, fair, livable wage but we have to start from the premise of paying them an ethical, livable wage" -Pete T...
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S1E55 / Mask Up / Linsey Marr, Kimberly Prather and Delphine Wallis from 2020-12-18T10:00
"Masks are absolutely essential because you can't always control when someone gets too close to you. You can't control the ventilation in every room that you go into. The thing you control the most...
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S1E55 / Mask Up / Linsey Marr, Kim Prather, Delphine Wallis from 2020-12-18T10:00
"Masks are absolutely essential because you can't always control when someone gets too close to you. You can't control the ventilation in every room that you go into. The thing you control the most...
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S1E54 / A Smarter Way to Quarantine / Roxanne Khamsi and Jeffrey Townsend from 2020-12-11T10:00
"If you're going to be traveling, if you're going to be in a situation where you might be exposed to others or where you can protect others by quarantining yourself, right now is the time to do it ...
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S1E54 / A Smarter Way to Quarantine / Roxanne Khamsi & Jeffrey Townsend from 2020-12-11T10:00
"If you're going to be traveling, if you're going to be in a situation where you might be exposed to others or where you can protect others by quarantining yourself, right now is the time to do it ...
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S1E52 / Love & Care in a Pandemic / Jon Gunnell and Robert Cialdini from 2020-11-20T10:00
"I was watching the nurses and the doctors and everyone in the healthcare industry just going through this trauma... It was just like people needed help and I had a chance to help." -Jon Gunnell
S1E52 / Love and Care in a Pandemic / Jon Gunnell & Robert Cialdini from 2020-11-20T10:00
"I was watching the nurses and the doctors and everyone in the healthcare industry just going through this trauma... It was just like people needed help and I had a chance to help." -Jon Gunnell
S1E51 / Disrupting Restaurants / David Henkes, Kirk Vartan, Tunde Wey from 2020-11-13T17:20:37
"Food is not going to solve the world's problems because food is itself a part of the problem, but food is an opportunity to begin thinking about it" - Tunde Wey
When airlines and other bi...
S1E49 / Lessons from the Zombie Apocalypse / Coltan Scrivner, David Schnieder, Robert Wonser from 2020-10-30T09:00
"We have this long history of seeking personal and individual solutions to public problems and I think the zombie films highlight that." - Robert Wonser
From Night of the Living Dead, to 2...
S1E48 / A False Promise: Herd Immunity and Herd Mentality / Tom Frieden and Mark Pagel from 2020-10-23T09:00
"I would put this in very plain English: The way to protect the vulnerable is to have fewer infections, not more infections." - Dr. Tom Frieden
Talk of achieving herd immunity without a va...
S1E48 / A False Promise: Herd Immunity and Herd Mentality / Mark Pagel & Tom Frieden from 2020-10-23T09:00
"I would put this in very plain English: The way to protect the vulnerable is to have fewer infections, not more infections." - Dr. Tom Frieden
Talk of achieving herd immunity without a va...
S1E47 / A Very Important Patient / Art Caplan, George Annas, John Feerick, and Joel Goldstein from 2020-10-16T09:00
“What could be more political [than] the determination of whether the president can fulfill the powers and duties of his office.” —Prof. George Annas
Earlier this month, President Trump an...
S1E47 / A Very Important Patient / Art Caplan, George Annas, Joel Goldstein from 2020-10-16T09:00
“What could be more political [than] the determination of whether the president can fulfill the powers and duties of his office.” —Prof. George Annas
Earlier this month, President Trump an...
S1E44 / Science & Public Health Under Attack / Garry Kasparov, Theresa Anselmo, and Lori Tremmel Freeman from 2020-09-25T09:00:21
“Public health is one of the few agencies locally that you can guarantee is apolitical. They just care about protecting the health of the community. … But these measures and these tactics by health...
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S1E44 / Science & Public Health Under Attack / Gary Kasparov, Lori Freeman, Theresa Anselmo from 2020-09-25T09:00:21
“Public health is one of the few agencies locally that you can guarantee is apolitical. They just care about protecting the health of the community. … But these measures and these tactics by health...
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S1E43 / What Sports Can Teach Us About Mass Testing / Michael Mina, Rohan Nadkarni, and Steph Apstein from 2020-09-18T09:30:21
“I think it's a fascinating microcosm of the situation we’re in as a country. I do think the plan has also may be shown a way that the pandemic needs to be attacked on a larger scale, which is what...
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S1E43 / What Sports Can Teach Us About Mass Testing / Michael Mina, Rohan Nadkarni, Stephanie Apstein from 2020-09-18T09:30:21
“I think it's a fascinating microcosm of the situation we’re in as a country. I do think the plan has also may be shown a way that the pandemic needs to be attacked on a larger scale, which is what...
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S1E42 / One on One with Tony Fauci from 2020-09-11T09:30:11
“Right now … we are in the middle of it, [a] very politicized situation… a lot of divisiveness in our country. So when you try to get a public health message out, unfortunately, it becomes so polit...
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S1E40 / Back to School / Arne Duncan, Allison Slater Tate, and Stephanie Gounder from 2020-07-31T09:30:06
“The goal is not to reopen schools; it’s to keep schools open. And if we reopen too fast, just as we reopened States too fast, you saw what happened. States had to shut down and schools would have ...
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S1E40 / Back to School / Arne Duncan, Allison Slater Tate, Stephanie Gounder from 2020-07-31T09:30:06
“The goal is not to reopen schools; it’s to keep schools open. And if we reopen too fast, just as we reopened States too fast, you saw what happened. States had to shut down and schools would have ...
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S1E39 / Invisible Women / Ai-jen Poo, Susie Rivera, and Glewna Joseph from 2020-07-28T09:30:03
“Now that we see them, my hope is that our field of vision about who is working, and just how valuable they are, continues to widen. And that is it's not only about awareness and clapping for them ...
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S1E39 / Invisible Women / Ai-jen Poo, Susie Rivera, Glewna Joseph from 2020-07-28T09:30:03
“Now that we see them, my hope is that our field of vision about who is working, and just how valuable they are, continues to widen. And that is it's not only about awareness and clapping for them ...
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S1E38 / Shoe-Leather Epidemiology / Jay Varma, Kimberly Jocelyn, and Maryama Diaw from 2020-07-24T09:30:10
“I literally love my job… and being able to wake up and the end of the day and also say … I possibly helped save a life.” — Kimberly Jocelyn
Contact tracers like Kimberly are an integral p...
S1E38 / Shoe-Leather Epidemiology / Jay Varma, Kimberly Joceyln, Maryama Diaw from 2020-07-24T09:30:10
“I literally love my job… and being able to wake up and the end of the day and also say … I possibly helped save a life.” — Kimberly Jocelyn
Contact tracers like Kimberly are an integral p...
S1E37 / Seeking Sanctuary / Julie Levey, Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove, and Pastor Jamal Bryant from 2020-07-21T09:30:19
“I don't have any plans on returning in the immediate future. I don't want history to record that COVID grew in America because of irresponsible religious groups… I want to make sure that we are go...
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S1E37 / Seeking Sanctuary / Julie Levey, Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove, Pastor Jamal Bryant from 2020-07-21T09:30:19
“I don't have any plans on returning in the immediate future. I don't want history to record that COVID grew in America because of irresponsible religious groups… I want to make sure that we are go...
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S1E36 / Alone Together / Julianne Holt-Lunstad, Lucy Flamm, Jeff Howe, and Jackie Jones from 2020-07-17T10:00:11
“Loneliness is something we hear a lot from individuals in our community. It's a time of physical distancing. And at first, this was really articulated as social distancing. And I think that's a pr...
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S1E36 / Alone Together / Julianne Holt-Lunstad, Lucy Flamm, Jeff Howe, Jackie Jones from 2020-07-17T10:00:11
“Loneliness is something we hear a lot from individuals in our community. It's a time of physical distancing. And at first, this was really articulated as social distancing. And I think that's a pr...
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S1E35 / What's Essential Health Care in a Pandemic? / Cecile Richards, Kersha Deibel, and a doctor from 2020-07-14T10:30:04
"...the pandemic has simply highlighted for some people that hypocrisy, where politicians use so-called medical reasons, protecting women's health, as an excuse for what are really political goals,...
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S1E35 / What’s Essential Health Care in a Pandemic? / Cecile Richards & Kersha Diebel from 2020-07-14T10:30:04
"...the pandemic has simply highlighted for some people that hypocrisy, where politicians use so-called medical reasons, protecting women's health, as an excuse for what are really political goals,...
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S1E34 / Hands-On / Nicola Corl, Shannon Adams, and Latia Curtis from 2020-07-10T06:30:05
“They say, you need to keep a minimum of six feet distance between people, but we're usually within 10 inches of our clients for the entire time that they are in the salon. The biggest risk is when...
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S1E34 / Hands-On / Nicola Corl, Shannon Adams, Latia Curtis from 2020-07-10T06:30:05
“They say, you need to keep a minimum of six feet distance between people, but we're usually within 10 inches of our clients for the entire time that they are in the salon. The biggest risk is when...
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S1E32 / Epidemics Change History / Josh Loomis and Frank Snowden from 2020-06-30T10:04:56
“Just like cholera exposed the weaknesses in European society, COVID is doing the same for us. ...The bubonic plague and cholera for example were devastating pandemics, but they also lead to the cr...
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S1E32 / Epidemics Change History / Josh Loomis & Frank Snowden from 2020-06-30T10:04:56
“Just like cholera exposed the weaknesses in European society, COVID is doing the same for us. ...The bubonic plague and cholera for example were devastating pandemics, but they also lead to the cr...
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S1E31 / A Patchwork Pandemic / Ed Yong&Howard Koh from 2020-06-26T06:30:02
“We all believe that we need a national plan in the face...
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S1E31 / A Patchwork Pandemic / Ed Yong & Howard Koh from 2020-06-26T06:30:02
“We all believe that we need a national plan in the face of a national emergency, a United response for the United States… We're all in these parts of the same country. You can't control the pandem...
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S1E30 / A Second Wave? / Howard Markel from 2020-06-19T11:09:46
“So when will it come back? You know, I'm a historian, so I'm uncomf...
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S1E29 / A Magic Bullet? Monoclonal Antibodies / James Crowe from 2020-06-16T06:30:06
"In our case, we're trying to transfer an antibody from one person to another. An...
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S1E28 / The Political Psychology of Pandemics / Michele Gelfand&Howard Lavine from 2020-06-12T10:06:07
"In the United States, we have a relatively low threat history. We're separated by two oceans fr...
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S1E28 / The Political Psychology of Pandemics / Michele Gelfand & Howard Lavine from 2020-06-12T10:06:07
"In the United States, we have a relatively low threat history. We're separated by two oceans from other continents. We haven't been afraid of Canada, Mexico, chronically invading us. We haven't be...
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S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran&Mark Rosenberg from 2020-05-29T06:30:19
"I think there are some people who are afraid that the truth will hurt the...
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S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran & Mark Rosenberg from 2020-05-29T06:30:19
"I think there are some people who are afraid that the truth will hurt the economy. That if we let CDC speak the truth, that will hurt stock prices, that will hurt people's jobs and the manufacturi...
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S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman&Jon Yewdell from 2020-05-26T06:30:05
“Antibodies are the easiest part of the immune system to meas...
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S1E23 / Our Immune System versus the Virus / Stanley Perlman & Jon Yewdell from 2020-05-26T06:30:05
“Antibodies are the easiest part of the immune system to measure. It's not the only part that's required for protection against this virus.” - Stanley Perlman
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S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, Marshall Ganz from 2020-05-22T06:00:33
“Every night... we are literally cheering and cl...
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S1E22 / A False Choice: The Economy versus Public Health / Rashad Robinson, Alicia Garza, Marshall Ganz from 2020-05-22T06:00:33
“Every night... we are literally cheering and clapping and beeping our horns for people that in many ways we're unwilling to fight for so that they could have $15 an hour. We call people essential ...
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S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler&Matt Memoli from 2020-05-19T06:30:06
“A lot of people don't realize this, but there are other cold-indu...
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S1E21 / Are Antibodies the Holy Grail? / Kaitlyn Sadtler & Matt Memoli from 2020-05-19T06:30:06
“A lot of people don't realize this, but there are other cold-inducing coronaviruses that give us the common cold that we've all had in our lives, and some of those coronaviruses can give you antib...
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S1E20 / Not Business as Usual / Geoff Baird&Céline Gounder from 2020-05-15T06:00:05
"Still, like 90% of our patients are COVID patients. This is s...
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S1E20 / Not Business as Usual / Geoff Baird & Céline Gounder from 2020-05-15T06:00:05
"Still, like 90% of our patients are COVID patients. This is still not normal.” -Dr. Celine Gounder
In this episode, our co-host, Dr. Celine Gounder, shares how her experience treating pat...
S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Peter King, Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl from 2020-05-12T06:00:16
"I can't stress this enough. Rudy Gobert testing posi...
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S1E19 / A Return to Sports, a Return to “Normal” Life? / Peter King, Rohan Nadkarni, Grant Wahl from 2020-05-12T06:00:16
"I can't stress this enough. Rudy Gobert testing posi...
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S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, Cindy Funkhouser from 2020-05-12T05:00:06
“It's scary for everybody, but imagine yourself being someone that ca...
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S1E18 / Without Shelter in a Storm / Rosanne Haggerty, Jake Maguire, Cindy Funkhouser from 2020-05-12T05:00:06
“It's scary for everybody, but imagine yourself being someone that can't socially isolate, that has no home, that doesn't have a TV and doesn't know what's going on. And all of a sudden, everyone h...
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S1E15 / Health Coverage in a Pandemic / Donald Berwick&Karen Pollitz from 2020-04-28T16:50:16
“COVID-19 is the great revealer. It’s...
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S1E15 / Health Coverage in a Pandemic / Donald Berwick & Karen Pollitz from 2020-04-28T16:50:16
“COVID-19 is the great revealer. It’s showing every crack and fault in the healthcare coverage system.” - Dr. Donald Berwick
In today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain s...
BONUS / Speaking Truth to COVID / Stacey Abrams from 2020-04-25T20:56:41
“We are not ready to put at risk the lives of those who are go...
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S1E14 / Disability Shouldn’t Be A Liability / Maggie Hassan&Rebecca Cokley from 2020-04-24T04:00:23
"Resources that we've been using as reasonable accommodations are now being taken u...
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S1E14 / Disability Shouldn’t Be A Liability / Maggie Hassan & Rebecca Cokley from 2020-04-24T04:00:23
"Resources that we've been using as reasonable accommodations are now being taken up by the rest of society due to shelter in place policies, and obviously this is something that's really important...
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S1E13 / A Black Plague / Helene Gayle&Aletha Maybank from 2020-04-21T08:24:41
“As a nation, we've got to put in place a public heal...
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S1E13 / A Black Plague / Helene Gayle&Aletha Maybank from 2020-04-21T08:24:41
“As a nation, we've got to put in place a public heal...
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S1E12 / Covid and Punishment / Homer Venters, Norman Ornstein, Steven Leifman from 2020-04-17T04:00:03
“There’s no social distancing ...
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S1E12 / Covid and Punishment / Homer Venters, Norman Ornstein, Steven Leifman from 2020-04-17T04:00:03
“There’s no social distancing in the prisons, almost no protective gear for anybody, and if you also have a serious mental illness… you can’t expect them to take any of the precautions that include...
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S1E11 / Surviving COVID / David Lat from 2020-04-14T13:39:05
"The other point I made about ventilators is, they're not a panacea....
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S1E10 / Dr Tony Fauci: From One Pandemic to Another / Mark Harrington&Peter Staley from 2020-04-10T08:00
“I mean, many of us spent the whole ‘80’s in a state ...
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S1E10 / Dr Tony Fauci: From One Pandemic to Another / Mark Harrington & Peter Staley from 2020-04-10T08:00
“I mean, many of us spent the whole ‘80’s in a state of terror, knowing that we'd been exposed, not knowing our status, not knowing whether we were going to live or die. And I think the vast majori...
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S1E7 / The Destiny of Nations Depends on How They Feed Themselves / José Andres from 2020-03-31T07:29
“I think today we are going to be do...
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S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights&Coronavirus / Vanita Gupta&Michael Macagnone from 2020-03-27T07:02:22
“The nation is confronting this kind of social distancing...
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S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Vanita Gupta & Michael Macagnone from 2020-03-27T07:02:22
“The nation is confronting this kind of social distancing and quarantine for the first time in the modern era, and it isn't clear to me that the laws in place are going to be sufficient. We haven't...
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S1E5 / On the Frontlines and in People’s Minds / Adam Grant from 2020-03-24T08:30
"I have to say it's really weird to be at Bellevue right...
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BONUS / A False Dichotomy: Airborne versus Droplet / Roxanne Khamsi and Lydia Bourouiba from 2020-03-20T16:24:14
On March 14, 2020, Roxanne ...
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BONUS / Running Out of Time / Michael Donnelly from 2020-03-20T16:16:34
Michael Donnelly is a professional data scientist, policy resea...
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S1E4 / Our Health System’s in Trouble / Andy Salvitt&Dan Diamond from 2020-03-20T04:03:16
“I think as we get testing capability out, and we get the ability...
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S1E4 / Our Health System’s in Trouble / Andy Salvitt & Dan Diamond from 2020-03-20T04:03:16
“I think as we get testing capability out, and we get the ability to treat the population, we can't forget that there's many people that don't have the choice to self-isolate. They have to go to wo...
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S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Craig Spencer&Helen Branswell from 2020-03-13T07:01
“The goal is to try to keep as many people from being infected for as long ...
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S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Craig Spencer&Helen Branswell from 2020-03-13T07:01
“The goal is to try to keep as many people from being infected for as long ...
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S1E1 / Do We Need a Coronavirus Czar? / Céline Gounder, Ron Klain from 2020-02-28T04:47:23
“We cannot build a wall, a real wall, or a metaphorical wall to k...
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S1E1 / Do We Need a Coronavirus Czar? / Céline Gounder, Ron Klain from 2020-02-28T04:47:23
“We cannot build a wall, a real wall, or a metaphorical wall to keep this disease out. We have to understand it's coming. It's here already. It's going to come to a greater extent and we need to be...
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