Episode 73: Interview with Caleb Kaltenbach - a podcast by ETC

In today's episode, Michael and Chad sit down with Caleb Kaltenbach to discuss his new book, Messy Truth.

Caleb is the Research Pastor at Shephard Church in Los Angeles, and holds a doctorate from Dallas Theological Seminary. His extensive experiences have given him a unique perspective on how to deal with the tougher subjects of modern Christianity. 

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