Bridging the Mythological and Scientific Worldviews with Jonathan Pageau | EMP Podcast 79 - a podcast by Evolve Move Play

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If you have been following my discussion with John Vervaeke and Paul Vander Klay you have probably heard me mention Jonathan Pageau. Pageau is an Icon Carver by trade, a commentator on symbolism on youtube and devout Eastern Orthodox Christian.

I met Pageau in 2017 at a Jordan Peterson speaking event. Jonathan was also a speaker there going over how art reveals patterns of being.

Honestly, at the time I had no idea what he was talking about, but Jonathan would end up doing a number of dialogues with Jordan and responses to his videos. I followed his work because as someone coming to Jordan’s work from an atheist perspective I wanted to understand how it was being interpreted from the religious side, this was the same reason I followed Paul Vander Klay. When Pageau started engaging in Dialogues with John Vervaeke, I started to gain a deeper understanding of his approach and a better appreciation for his insights.

In the process of my conversations with Paul Vander Klay and John Vervaeke I became increasingly interested in getting the chance to dialogue with Jonathan and understand his perspective more directly.

I was especially intrigued for this interview after watching Jonathan's discussions with Rationality Rules and Adam Friend, who were both Atheist rationalists. I thought the conversations took interesting directions but suffered from being unable to accept each other's frames. I hoped I could manage that better and I believe I did.

This turned out to be a fantastic and intriguing discussion for me that covered a lot of ground and established some good underlying foundations to bridge the mythological and scientific world view.

There was a point near the end beyond which we could not progress but I believe that in getting there, much was gained.

I look forward very much to your feedback on this episode and the others we’ve had like it.


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Learn More about Jonathan Pageau
Web: https://thesymbolicworld.com
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan

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Books in this episode:
Maps of Meaning: Jordan Peterson
https://amzn.to/3vls7NF
The Righteous Mind: Jonathan Haidt
https://amzn.to/34eYBNN
Spell of the Sensuous
https://amzn.to/33wICds

Blogs mentioned
The godlessness that failed
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godlessness-that-failed
I can tolerate anything except the outgroup
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

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