Episode 185: Joe Navarro – Rod Ramsay Espionage Case, Reading Body Language - a podcast by Jerri Williams

Retired agent Joe Navarro served in the FBI for 25 years. During his Bureau career, he worked as an agent and supervisor in counterintelligence and counterterrorism. In this episode of FBI Retired Case File Review, Joe reviews the case of Rod Ramsay, an  Army veteran living in Tampa, Florida, suspected of committing espionage while stationed in Germany. While interviewing Ramsay forty-two times, Joe recorded the evidence to prove that the spy handed the Soviets vital military secrets that could destroy the US. Joe wrote about the case in his book - Three Minutes to Doomsday: An Agent, a Traitor, and the Worst Espionage Breach in U.S. History.

Through his work on this case and others, Joe Navarro was able to study, refine, and apply the science of nonverbal communications. His expertise in the body language field and his success as a spy-catcher led Joe to begin training FBI agents and the intelligence community at the FBI Academy’s Behavioral Science Unit. He reveals some of the myths about reading body language and what different nonverbal cues indicate.

Retiring from the FBI in 2003, and meeting overwhelming demand for his notable insights into human behavior, Joe has dedicated himself to speaking and consulting with major corporations worldwide. He is recognized as one of the world’s foremost authorities on reading nonverbal communications and he has interviewed on programs such as NBC’s Today Show, Fox News, ABC’s Good Morning America, CBS’ Early Show, BBC News, and for publications such as The Washington Post, South China Morning Post and Psychology Today. 

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Jerri Williams, a retired FBI agent, author and podcaster, attempts to relive her glory days by writing and blogging about the FBI and hosting FBI Retired Case File Review, a true crime/history podcast. Her new book FBI Myths and Misconceptions: A Manual for Armchair Detectives is available as an audiobook, ebook and paperback wherever books are sold. 

 

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