72+: Heckingbottom’s up and Warne’s winning formula - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

Aaron Paul is joined by Millwall forward Jed Wallace and Wycombe left-back Joe Jacobson to dissect this week's big talking points from the EFL.

BBC Sheffield’s Andy Giddings gives us the lowdown on a dramatic turn of events at Sheffield United as they sacked Slavisa Jokanovic after just six months in charge and replaced him with Paul Heckingbottom on a five-year contract. The guys share what they think of such a drastic change in strategy at Bramall Lane.

Cardiff City manager Steve Morison tells us what life is like in his new job, how he’s putting the youngsters through a tough gym regime and why he’s perhaps not the grumpy man many people may perceive him to be.

The ever-entertaining Paul Warne explains how Friday night steak could be a big factor in the success at Rotherham United, whose 12-match unbeaten run has taken them top of League One, and why he’s obsessed with respect in his squad.

And after taking four points from games against Bournemouth and Fulham, despite receiving a further nine-point deduction, Wayne Rooney tells Aaron why he wants his Derby players to just enjoy their football and why he wants the team to be an embodiment of him.

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05.40 - Andy Giddings on Sheffield United drama
13.10 - Jed and Joe’s reaction
15.46 - Steve Morison on life at Cardiff
25.47 - Paul Warne on Rotherham’s secrets to success
38.30 - Wayne Rooney interview

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