72+: To Pakistan, via Grimsby - a podcast by BBC Radio 5 live

Aaron Paul is joined by Danny Cowley and Phil Brown to discuss Cardiff's start to the season and whether they could be this season's surprise package in the Championship. Grimsby Town midfielder Otis Khan drops by to discuss captaining Pakistan during the international break and Grimsby's new manager David Artell. They also look at Mark Bonner's departure from Cambridge United and where the shocks will be in the FA Cup 2nd round.

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03:06 Cardiff City's positive start to the season
14:36 Otis Khan on captaining Pakistan and Grimsby's new manager
27:50 Mark Bonner's departure from Cambridge United
34:29 Preview of FA Cup Round Two

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