228. Crème Fraîche Ice Cream and Not-Hot Takes, with musician and writer Dessa - a podcast by BBC Radio 4

This week on Fortunately, Fi and Jane speak to American singer, rapper and writer Dessa. She joins the podcast from her home town of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and tells Fi and Jane about her series Deeply Human, which assembles brilliant minds from around the world to investigate the human experience. The three of them cover topics such as the teenage brain, saying 'yes' like a member of the Royal Family and Jane's transformation as she gets into the back of a Lime St. cab. Before Dessa logs in there's newly shaved armpits and sage advice from pilates.

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