Garrett's Games 653 - Trellis and Okavango - a podcast by Douglas Garrett

Shelley and I check out a quick filler and a solid family game from well-known designers:

Trellis by Teale Fristoe from Breaking Games

and 

Okavango by Michael Kiesling and Wolfgang Kramer from Jumbo

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