Episode 024: Seeing Programming Where Other People Don’t with Felienne Hermans - a podcast by Mandy Moore
from 2017-03-22T21:00
00:16 – Welcome to “The Netherlands Invented Gay Marriage, So We Should Be Scared of Them Now!” …we mean, “Greater Than Code!”
01:28 – Origin Story
03:17 – Programming Perspectives From People of Different Backgrounds; Teaching Adults vs Children
06:12 – Teaching Programming as a Language; Aha! Moments
12:26 – Identity and why do we so often use the phrase “not real programming”? What do we define as software? Tooling
20:13 – Should everyone know programming? Why? What should they know/be able to do? (Digital Literacy)
28:27 – What is the programming equivalent of a library/librarian?
33:06 – Does STEM education make other forms of education obsolete? Why not?
35:15 – Things to Get Better at Programming Other Than Programming
48:58 – Fighting Against “Real” Programming and Being Hesitant to Let in Newcomers
50:40 – What can we do to help spread the knowledge?
Reflections:
Felienne: If people say they are programming, they are. Limit belittling and surprise. Do not contaminate others with what your own idea of programming is.
Jessica: Value on reading through code and forming a model of it.
Astrid: Thinking about programming as in thinking about writing.
Rein: Some programming does involved math, but it is not (for the most part) the math you hated in high school.
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Sam: You can be fluent at a very low level of proficiency and still be fluent.
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Special Guest: Felienne Hermans.
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