Frans VanOudenallen: Transitioning between industries, Don't Network, Engage - Episode 008 - a podcast by Jason Thomas

You transitioned from corporate career path to academia and coaching. I'm sure you've seen many other clients make dramatic (or what seems so) transitions. What are some of the keys to a transition of this nature?
Seek that which you love and you'll never work a day in your life
Enjoyed mentoring downward in corporate world
Showed up - discipline - walk into opportunities because you're there
Knew what he liked to do.
Marketing: Look at it primarily from the customer's POV

You and I met in early 2009 while I was between jobs. You were then and are now a prolific networker. Share with us how you use this tool and how you hope others will use it.

Thinks of 'Engagement' instead of networking
Give more than you take: Engagement
Giving: can be simple, doesn't take much time / money. 'Send me a pithy one liner'
Do not keep score. A goal for engagement is to identify positive givers
Great advise to actually engage with people not just network

Make the conversation rich and relevant for the speaker
Listen for and void 'I' talkers, they are takers. You / We / Team talkers are givers. Spend time with them.

Engage Strategically and Selectively
Find events that sound interesting or will attract the kind of people you want / need to meet
Plan in advance the events you'll attend
Stay in touch with the people you want to stay in touch with. Givers
Do this 1 / 2 times per month. You'll meet 49 - 96 people

This podcast is for hustlers. Many of them are up and comers. What is the most important advice would you offer to the next generation of business leaders?
Have an open mind
Spend time with older successful people

Best contact info for Frans VanOudenAllen
Phone: 314-378-3816
Email: fvanoudenallen@gmail.com
Linkedin
Please reach out to let Frans know what one or two pieces of insight you will put into practice today.

Also, as always, shoot me a note at jason@hardwaymba.com or invite me to connect on LinkedIn to let me know what you like (and don't like) about the interviews. What can we do to make them more actionable for you.

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