85 by Index Fund Advisors IFA.com – Miguel Lupiano from Brazil, Tracey Hawkins, Horse and Hawk Ranch and Vineyards - a podcast by Horse Radio Network, LLC

Miguel Lupiano trained horses in a traditional world until he attended a Monty Roberts clinic in California. Now he works with horses and children in a in a very Join-Up way. And Tracey Hawkins is raising her horses and her kids in a close relationship to the land and the family business they love. Listen in... Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/user?u=87421)

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