Podcasts by The Art World: What If...?!

The Art World: Hope&Dread, American History, Axed from 2021-12-14T16:55:08

America’s public spaces have been throbbing with the sounds of loud arguments about history and identity, encapsulated by the debate over Confederate monuments. In this episode, hosts Charlotte ...

The Art World: Hope&Dread, Introducing Hope&Dread from 2021-12-14T16:53:21

Introducing this new documentary series exploring power in art, hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman discuss the biggest challenges in the cultural world today. At a moment of epochal shi...

The Art World: Hope and Dread from 2021-12-09T21:51:46

The series explores power in art--and how it's bound up with democracy, society and the wider world. You'll meet people who are trying to change the balance of that power, and you'll witness resist...

#79: Collaboration is the antidote to the poison from 2020-04-29T08:00

From acts of solidarity to new business models, many in the art world are teaming up during this pandemic to bolster the system and rethink its infrastructure. Joining us for today’s show are gu...

The Art World: In Other Words, Collaboration is the antidote to the poison from 2020-04-29T08:00

From acts of solidarity to new business models, many in the art world are teaming up during this pandemic to bolster the system and rethink its infrastructure. Joining us for today’s show are gu...

#78: Covid-19 is Exposing the Fault Lines from 2020-04-10T08:00

Will Covid-19—which is so far spreading unevenly in the US, hitting low-income or black communities the hardest—exacerbate the inequities in the art world? In our 78th episode, host Charlotte Bu...

The Art World: In Other Words, Covid-19 is Exposing the Fault Lines from 2020-04-10T08:00

Will Covid-19—which is so far spreading unevenly in the US, hitting low-income or black communities the hardest—exacerbate the inequities in the art world? In our 78th episode, host Charlotte Bu...

#77: "Art is About Freedom,” with Gallerist Sadie Coles from 2020-03-20T08:00

“Art is about ideas, transgression and transformation," says gallerist Sadie Coles, who founded her eponymous gallery, Sadie Coles HQ, in London's Mayfair neighborhood in 1997, and now has two s...

The Art World: In Other Words, "Art is About Freedom,” with Gallerist Sadie Coles from 2020-03-20T08:00

“Art is about ideas, transgression and transformation," says gallerist Sadie Coles, who founded her eponymous gallery, Sadie Coles HQ, in London's Mayfair neighborhood in 1997, and now has two s...

#76: The Magical Maureen Paley from 2020-03-12T06:00

Maureen Paley—a native New Yorker who was recently named one of the Evening Standard's most influential Londoners—has been called a "true pioneer of the East End" for her part in turnin...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Magical Maureen Paley from 2020-03-12T06:00

Maureen Paley—a native New Yorker who was recently named one of the Evening Standard's most influential Londoners—has been called a "true pioneer of the East End" for her part in turnin...

#75: Art and Politics with Stuart Shave and Sarah McCrory from 2020-02-28T08:00

This lively conversation with Stuart Shave and Sarah McCrory was recorded in London shortly before the UK exited Europe at the end of January. McCrory (inaugural director of the Goldsmiths Centr...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Politics with Stuart Shave and Sarah McCrory from 2020-02-28T08:00

This lively conversation with Stuart Shave and Sarah McCrory was recorded in London shortly before the UK exited Europe at the end of January. McCrory (inaugural director of the Goldsmiths Centr...

#74: On the Ground in L.A. from 2020-02-14T01:22:31

Tune in for this behind-the-scenes talk between host Charlotte Burns and journalist Jori Finkel on the rise of the L.A. art scene. A California correspondent for The New York Times and ...

The Art World: In Other Words, On the Ground in L.A. from 2020-02-14T01:22:31

Tune in for this behind-the-scenes talk between host Charlotte Burns and journalist Jori Finkel on the rise of the L.A. art scene. A California correspondent for The New York Times and ...

#73: A Year of Protests and Profound Change: 2019 in Review from 2019-12-28T05:00

2019 was a year of protests and profound change. We look back on what happened, what our guests talked about and what our listeners most responded to. Tune in to hear Ian Alteveer (the Aaron I. ...

The Art World: In Other Words, A Year of Protests and Profound Change: 2019 in Review from 2019-12-28T05:00

2019 was a year of protests and profound change. We look back on what happened, what our guests talked about and what our listeners most responded to. Tune in to hear Ian Alteveer (the Aaron I. ...

#72: Entrepreneurialism, Technology and the Masterpieces of Tomorrow from 2019-12-05T09:00

Recorded live in Napa Valley at the Kramlich Residence—which was built by architects Herzog & De Meuron—this wide-ranging discussion about collecting and supporting art is with guests Pamela and...

The Art World: In Other Words, Entrepreneurialism, Technology and the Masterpieces of Tomorrow from 2019-12-05T09:00

Recorded live in Napa Valley at the Kramlich Residence—which was built by architects Herzog & De Meuron—this wide-ranging discussion about collecting and supporting art is with guests Pamela and...

#71: Auction Talk with Nick, Allan and Charlotte from 2019-11-22T07:00

Today’s podcast covers the top takeaways from the recent auction week in New York—and what this means for the market. Nicholas Maclean (of the London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and A...

The Art World: In Other Words, Auction Talk with Nick, Allan and Charlotte from 2019-11-22T07:00

Today’s podcast covers the top takeaways from the recent auction week in New York—and what this means for the market. Nicholas Maclean (of the London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and A...

#70: Investigating America with Artist Catherine Opie from 2019-11-14T09:00

Tune in for this wide-ranging discussion with artist Catherine Opie, a tenured professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose internationally-exhibited art investigates the boom a...

The Art World: In Other Words, Investigating America with Artist Catherine Opie from 2019-11-14T09:00

Tune in for this wide-ranging discussion with artist Catherine Opie, a tenured professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose internationally-exhibited art investigates the boom a...

#69: Talking Power with Ford Foundation President Darren Walker and Artist Teresita Fernández from 2019-11-01T13:56:32

#69: Talking Power with Ford Foundation President Darren Walker and Artist Teresita Fernández

Ford Foundation president Darren Walker and MacArthur “genius” artist Teresita Fernández alre...

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Power with Ford Foundation President Darren Walker and Artist Teresita Fernández from 2019-11-01T13:56:32

#69: Talking Power with Ford Foundation President Darren Walker and Artist Teresita Fernández

Ford Foundation president Darren Walker and MacArthur “genius” artist Teresita Fernández alre...

#68: Our First Impressions of the New MoMA from 2019-10-23T08:00

The Museum of Modern Art reopens this month after a $450m expansion that has added more than 47,000 sq. ft and many new galleries that tell a different story of modern and contemporary art.

The Art World: In Other Words, Our First Impressions of the New MoMA from 2019-10-23T08:00

The Museum of Modern Art reopens this month after a $450m expansion that has added more than 47,000 sq. ft and many new galleries that tell a different story of modern and contemporary art.

#67: Designing Motherhood from 2019-10-10T06:00

This episode answers all of the questions you never knew you had about the objects associated with motherhood, from the unexpected stories behind some of the most ubiquitous designs (did you kno...

The Art World: In Other Words, Designing Motherhood from 2019-10-10T06:00

This episode answers all of the questions you never knew you had about the objects associated with motherhood, from the unexpected stories behind some of the most ubiquitous designs (did you kno...

#66: Why Gender Progress Is a Myth from 2019-10-03T04:30

Only 11% of the art acquired by America’s top museums over the past decade was work made by women. And acquisitions have actually declined since 2009, according to a major new study “Women's Pla...

The Art World: In Other Words, Why Gender Progress Is a Myth from 2019-10-03T04:30

Only 11% of the art acquired by America’s top museums over the past decade was work made by women. And acquisitions have actually declined since 2009, according to a major new study “Women's Pla...

#65: Metropolitan Museum Director Max Hollein from 2019-09-26T08:00

A year after taking the reins of one of the world’s largest and most important art institutions, Max Hollein joins host Charlotte Burns to discuss the future of the Metropolitan Museum.

H...

The Art World: In Other Words, Metropolitan Museum Director Max Hollein from 2019-09-26T08:00

A year after taking the reins of one of the world’s largest and most important art institutions, Max Hollein joins host Charlotte Burns to discuss the future of the Metropolitan Museum.

H...

#64: Massimiliano Gioni Wants to Do Away with Quality from 2019-09-12T14:30

“I realized that more interesting things happen when I could do away with notions of quality and taste,” says Massimiliano Gioni, artistic director of the New Museum in New York and director of ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Massimiliano Gioni Wants to Do Away with Quality from 2019-09-12T14:30

“I realized that more interesting things happen when I could do away with notions of quality and taste,” says Massimiliano Gioni, artistic director of the New Museum in New York and director of ...

#63: Live Panel: Says Who? Cultural Value and Validation in the 21st Century from 2019-08-15T08:00

Who gets to define culture, and who gets to create it? Who decides what's in and what's out, what's valuable and what's worthless? In a live panel discussion moderated by Charlotte Burns and org...

The Art World: In Other Words, Live Panel: Says Who? Cultural Value and Validation in the 21st Century from 2019-08-15T08:00

Who gets to define culture, and who gets to create it? Who decides what's in and what's out, what's valuable and what's worthless? In a live panel discussion moderated by Charlotte Burns and org...

#62: Live From Venice - Our Take On The Biennale from 2019-07-18T08:00

Welcome to our Venice Biennale special, which we recorded live in Italy last month. Returning to his roots as an art critic for our first ever review show, Allan Schwartzman joins host Charlotte...

The Art World: In Other Words, Live From Venice - Our Take On The Biennale from 2019-07-18T08:00

Welcome to our Venice Biennale special, which we recorded live in Italy last month. Returning to his roots as an art critic for our first ever review show, Allan Schwartzman joins host Charlotte...

#61: Sir David Adjaye Takes On Nation Myths from 2019-06-20T14:07:03

Sir David Adjaye is the architect behind some of the most interesting buildings of our times, from national museums to social housing. He has described the fraught political process of designing...

The Art World: In Other Words, Sir David Adjaye Takes On Nation Myths from 2019-06-20T14:07:03

Sir David Adjaye is the architect behind some of the most interesting buildings of our times, from national museums to social housing. He has described the fraught political process of designing...

#60: David Zwirner Needs No Introduction from 2019-06-06T08:00

“I really felt ten years ago that there was a huge opportunity for me at different levels in the art world,” says David Zwirner, whose eponymous gallery opened in New York more than 25 years ago...

The Art World: In Other Words, David Zwirner Needs No Introduction from 2019-06-06T08:00

“I really felt ten years ago that there was a huge opportunity for me at different levels in the art world,” says David Zwirner, whose eponymous gallery opened in New York more than 25 years ago...

#59: Andy Warhol: Sex, Death, Beauty and Disaster from 2019-05-30T08:00

Andy Warhol is one of the best-known—but perhaps least understood—artists of the 20th century. “Warhol shifted the paradigm. He shifted the conversation. That's why we're still grappling with hi...

The Art World: In Other Words, Andy Warhol: Sex, Death, Beauty and Disaster from 2019-05-30T08:00

Andy Warhol is one of the best-known—but perhaps least understood—artists of the 20th century. “Warhol shifted the paradigm. He shifted the conversation. That's why we're still grappling with hi...

#58: Reshaping Culture from 2019-05-16T10:00

Today’s podcast is a lively one, taking in authorship and authority, productivity and capital in conversation with Alistair Hudson (director of The Whitworth and Manchester Galleries), Bernadine...

The Art World: In Other Words, Reshaping Culture from 2019-05-16T10:00

Today’s podcast is a lively one, taking in authorship and authority, productivity and capital in conversation with Alistair Hudson (director of The Whitworth and Manchester Galleries), Bernadine...

#57: Then and Now: Paula Cooper Gallery from 2019-04-25T18:48:15

Paula Cooper Gallery has survived and thrived in a mercurial art world for more than five decades. On today’s show, the legendary dealer talks about the history and future of her gallery togethe...

The Art World: In Other Words, Then and Now: Paula Cooper Gallery from 2019-04-25T18:48:15

Paula Cooper Gallery has survived and thrived in a mercurial art world for more than five decades. On today’s show, the legendary dealer talks about the history and future of her gallery togethe...

#56: Power, Purpose and Privilege with Artists Nari Ward and Derrick Adams from 2019-04-11T08:00

“As an artist I feel like it’s my role to bring that moment of history—that moment of doubt, frustration, of fear—into the present,” says Nari Ward in conversation with fellow artist Derrick Ada...

The Art World: In Other Words, Power, Purpose and Privilege with Artists Nari Ward and Derrick Adams from 2019-04-11T08:00

“As an artist I feel like it’s my role to bring that moment of history—that moment of doubt, frustration, of fear—into the present,” says Nari Ward in conversation with fellow artist Derrick Ada...

#55: Who Gets to Be American? from 2019-03-28T06:00

Our world and the ways in which we perceive and understand it are both shaped and reflected by art. This is especially true when it comes to nations and the stories they tell of themsel...

The Art World: In Other Words, Who Gets to Be American? from 2019-03-28T06:00

Our world and the ways in which we perceive and understand it are both shaped and reflected by art. This is especially true when it comes to nations and the stories they tell of themsel...

#54: Artist Ian Cheng: "The best art is like a Trojan horse" from 2019-03-14T08:00

Ian Cheng wants to change the way you think. “I really want to make art that taps into some part of a viewer’s neurology and gets them into a different state,” Cheng says to host Charlotte Burns...

The Art World: In Other Words, Artist Ian Cheng: "The best art is like a Trojan horse" from 2019-03-14T08:00

Ian Cheng wants to change the way you think. “I really want to make art that taps into some part of a viewer’s neurology and gets them into a different state,” Cheng says to host Charlotte Burns...

#53: The "Daft Punk of Contemporary Painting”: Artist Mickalene Thomas from 2019-02-28T11:00

In the words of the Los Angeles Times, the artist Mickalene Thomas “is to contemporary painting what Daft Punk is to music: acclaimed as one of t...

The Art World: In Other Words, The "Daft Punk of Contemporary Painting”: Artist Mickalene Thomas from 2019-02-28T11:00

In the words of the Los Angeles Times, the artist Mickalene Thomas “is to contemporary painting what Daft Punk is to music: acclaimed as one of t...

#52: In Other Words Live in LA: Expanding the Canon from 2019-02-22T10:00

Produced in partnership with Frieze Los Angeles, this live recording is a conversation with major Californian institutional leaders Naima J. Keith (Deputy Director, California A...

The Art World: In Other Words, In Other Words Live in LA: Expanding the Canon from 2019-02-22T10:00

Produced in partnership with Frieze Los Angeles, this live recording is a conversation with major Californian institutional leaders Naima J. Keith (Deputy Director, California A...

#51: Sir Nicholas Serota: "We All Want To Know What It Means To Be Alive Today" from 2019-02-14T05:00

The man credited with reinventing the museum and changing British culture, Sir Nicholas Serota joins us for a special extended episode of In Other Words.

Now Chair of Arts Counci...

The Art World: In Other Words, Sir Nicholas Serota: "We All Want To Know What It Means To Be Alive Today" from 2019-02-14T05:00

The man credited with reinventing the museum and changing British culture, Sir Nicholas Serota joins us for a special extended episode of In Other Words.

Now Chair of Arts Counci...

#50: Expectations and Epiphanies with NPG Director Nicholas Cullinan from 2019-01-31T06:00

From ticketing scandals and the implications of Brexit, to a major £35m museum renovation, this episode of In Other Words features a frank conversation with Nicholas Cullinan, the direc...

The Art World: In Other Words, Expectations and Epiphanies with NPG Director Nicholas Cullinan from 2019-01-31T06:00

From ticketing scandals and the implications of Brexit, to a major £35m museum renovation, this episode of In Other Words features a frank conversation with Nicholas Cullinan, the direc...

#49: Artist Laurie Simmons “I don’t want to be a second generation anything" from 2019-01-17T12:08:34

“Being an artist was a great excuse for anything you wanted to do that was ‘different’,” says the artist, photographer and filmmaker Laurie Simmons, whose work is the subject of a major retrospe...

The Art World: In Other Words, Artist Laurie Simmons “I don’t want to be a second generation anything" from 2019-01-17T12:08:34

“Being an artist was a great excuse for anything you wanted to do that was ‘different’,” says the artist, photographer and filmmaker Laurie Simmons, whose work is the subject of a major retrospe...

#48: The Best of 2018 from 2019-01-03T11:00

What were the hot topics of 2018? Host Charlotte Burns looks back on the year in this special episode, breaking down key moments in conversation with Julia Halperin (executive editor of artnet N...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Best of 2018 from 2019-01-03T11:00

What were the hot topics of 2018? Host Charlotte Burns looks back on the year in this special episode, breaking down key moments in conversation with Julia Halperin (executive editor of artnet N...

#47: Jerry Comes Alive from 2018-12-27T12:00

For this special live recording from Washington, D.C., we were invited to interview Jerry Saltz, the senior art critic at New York magazine, in front of an audience as part of the “Crit...

The Art World: In Other Words, Jerry Comes Alive from 2018-12-27T12:00

For this special live recording from Washington, D.C., we were invited to interview Jerry Saltz, the senior art critic at New York magazine, in front of an audience as part of the “Crit...

#46: Art and Power with New Museum Director Lisa Phillips from 2018-12-13T12:00

Named “the most powerful woman in the New York art world” by The New York Times, Lisa Phillips has been the director of the New Museum of Contemporary Art since 1999. On today’s show, she talks ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Power with New Museum Director Lisa Phillips from 2018-12-13T12:00

Named “the most powerful woman in the New York art world” by The New York Times, Lisa Phillips has been the director of the New Museum of Contemporary Art since 1999. On today’s show, she talks ...

#45: Collecting and Patronage with Glenn Fuhrman from 2018-11-29T12:00

Celebrating its tenth anniversary this year, the non-profit FLAG Art Foundation in New York was founded by Glenn Fuhrman. On this episode of In Other Words, Fuhrman talks how he began c...

The Art World: In Other Words, Collecting and Patronage with Glenn Fuhrman from 2018-11-29T12:00

Celebrating its tenth anniversary this year, the non-profit FLAG Art Foundation in New York was founded by Glenn Fuhrman. On this episode of In Other Words, Fuhrman talks how he began c...

#44: Let’s Fall in Love: Our Analysis of the November Auctions from 2018-11-22T12:00

More than $2B was spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art during the recent round of auctions in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of the London and New York dealership...

The Art World: In Other Words, Let’s Fall in Love: Our Analysis of the November Auctions from 2018-11-22T12:00

More than $2B was spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art during the recent round of auctions in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of the London and New York dealership...

#43: Art and Conspiracy from 2018-11-15T12:00

In this episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Ian Alteveer and Doug Eklund, the co-curators of “Everything is Connected: Art and Conspiracy” at the Met Breuer (until 6 January 2019).

T...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Conspiracy from 2018-11-15T12:00

In this episode, we go down the rabbit hole with Ian Alteveer and Doug Eklund, the co-curators of “Everything is Connected: Art and Conspiracy” at the Met Breuer (until 6 January 2019).

T...

#42: Curating, with Cecilia Alemani&Ingrid Schaffner from 2018-10-25T11:00

How do curators find art, and decide to show it? Joining our host Charlotte Burns for a conversation about the future of biennials, triennials and other group shows are Cecilia Alemani (director...

The Art World: In Other Words, Curating, with Cecilia Alemani&Ingrid Schaffner from 2018-10-25T11:00

How do curators find art, and decide to show it? Joining our host Charlotte Burns for a conversation about the future of biennials, triennials and other group shows are Cecilia Alemani (director...

#41: Guggenheim Director Richard Armstrong from 2018-10-11T11:00

In today’s episode of In Other Words, we are joined by Richard Armstrong, who has been the director of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum and Foundation since 2008. A frank and insightful thinker ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Guggenheim Director Richard Armstrong from 2018-10-11T11:00

In today’s episode of In Other Words, we are joined by Richard Armstrong, who has been the director of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum and Foundation since 2008. A frank and insightful thinker ...

#40: Keeping Count with Artist Howardena Pindell from 2018-09-27T11:00

The first major survey show of the 75-year-old artist Howardena Pindell opened earlier this year at the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago and is now on show at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Keeping Count with Artist Howardena Pindell from 2018-09-27T11:00

The first major survey show of the 75-year-old artist Howardena Pindell opened earlier this year at the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago and is now on show at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts ...

#39: Tracing the Representation of African American Artists from 2018-09-20T11:00

Just 2.3% of all purchases and gifts at 30 prominent US museums over the past ten years have been of work by African American artists, according to a joint investigation by In Other Words and ar...

The Art World: In Other Words, Tracing the Representation of African American Artists from 2018-09-20T11:00

Just 2.3% of all purchases and gifts at 30 prominent US museums over the past ten years have been of work by African American artists, according to a joint investigation by In Other Words and ar...

#38: Art Pilgrimages with Dia’s Jessica Morgan from 2018-09-13T11:00

Joining us for our 38th episode is Jessica Morgan, the director of the Dia Art Foundation—that much beloved organization so associated with the great land artists of the 1960s and 1970s. Pilgrim...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Pilgrimages with Dia’s Jessica Morgan from 2018-09-13T11:00

Joining us for our 38th episode is Jessica Morgan, the director of the Dia Art Foundation—that much beloved organization so associated with the great land artists of the 1960s and 1970s. Pilgrim...

#37: Art Across America, with Chrissie Iles, Carolyn Ramo and Hamza Walker from 2018-08-16T11:00

Where is the great art being made in America today? In this episode, our guests Chrissie Iles (Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz curator at the Whitney Museum of American art), Carolyn Ramo (exe...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Across America, with Chrissie Iles, Carolyn Ramo and Hamza Walker from 2018-08-16T11:00

Where is the great art being made in America today? In this episode, our guests Chrissie Iles (Anne and Joel Ehrenkranz curator at the Whitney Museum of American art), Carolyn Ramo (exe...

#36: Talking Shop with Roberta Smith from 2018-07-19T11:00

“By now, I’m kind of an opinion machine,” says Roberta Smith, co-chief art critic for The New York Times in this special podcast recording with our host Charlotte Burns.

“I would say all ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Shop with Roberta Smith from 2018-07-19T11:00

“By now, I’m kind of an opinion machine,” says Roberta Smith, co-chief art critic for The New York Times in this special podcast recording with our host Charlotte Burns.

“I would say all ...

#35: Magical Thinking with Sculptor Joel Shapiro from 2018-06-28T11:00

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his...

The Art World: In Other Words, Magical Thinking with Sculptor Joel Shapiro from 2018-06-28T11:00

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his...

#34: Collector Sylvio Perlstein on Trading Diamonds with Man Ray from 2018-06-15T02:36:45

“Because Sylvio is courageous, I was able to buy more hamburgers to keep up my strength, and more paint to continue painting,” said artist Robert Ryman about collector Sylvio Perlstein, who was ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Collector Sylvio Perlstein on Trading Diamonds with Man Ray from 2018-06-15T02:36:45

“Because Sylvio is courageous, I was able to buy more hamburgers to keep up my strength, and more paint to continue painting,” said artist Robert Ryman about collector Sylvio Perlstein, who was ...

#33: Don’t Stop Believing, with Artist Glenn Kaino from 2018-05-31T11:00

"When people ask me how to describe the work or describe myself, I always just start by saying artist," says Glenn Kaino. "Everything stems from the art practice."

The visionary American ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Don’t Stop Believing, with Artist Glenn Kaino from 2018-05-31T11:00

"When people ask me how to describe the work or describe myself, I always just start by saying artist," says Glenn Kaino. "Everything stems from the art practice."

The visionary American ...

#32: Our Take on the May 2018 Auctions from 2018-05-24T11:00

Huge sums of money—more than $2.6bn—have been spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art over the past two weeks in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of London and New Yor...

The Art World: In Other Words, Our Take on the May 2018 Auctions from 2018-05-24T11:00

Huge sums of money—more than $2.6bn—have been spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art over the past two weeks in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of London and New Yor...

#31: Wrestling With Artist Carroll Dunham from 2018-05-17T11:00

“There’s no goal to being an artist—you keep doing it and then, in theory, one dies,” says Carroll Dunham, who Allan Schwartzman describes as one of the greatest painters of the past 40 years. Listen

The Art World: In Other Words, Wrestling With Artist Carroll Dunham from 2018-05-17T11:00

“There’s no goal to being an artist—you keep doing it and then, in theory, one dies,” says Carroll Dunham, who Allan Schwartzman describes as one of the greatest painters of the past 40 years. Listen

#30: Art World Outliers, With Lynne Cooke from 2018-05-03T11:00

One of the most talked about exhibitions this year, “Outliers and American Vanguard Art”, closes next week at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC (13 May), after which it will travel t...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art World Outliers, With Lynne Cooke from 2018-05-03T11:00

One of the most talked about exhibitions this year, “Outliers and American Vanguard Art”, closes next week at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC (13 May), after which it will travel t...

#29: The Future Of The Museum from 2018-04-19T12:00

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The ...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Future Of The Museum from 2018-04-19T12:00

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The ...

#28: The Man Behind Bowie: the V&A’s Geoffrey Marsh from 2018-04-05T13:36:41

Almost two million people so far have visited the blockbuster exhibition “David Bowie Is”, on show now at the Brooklyn Museum (until 15 July).

The exhibition was masterminded by Geoffrey ...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Man Behind Bowie: the V&A’s Geoffrey Marsh from 2018-04-05T13:36:41

Almost two million people so far have visited the blockbuster exhibition “David Bowie Is”, on show now at the Brooklyn Museum (until 15 July).

The exhibition was masterminded by Geoffrey ...

#27: What’s On The Menu, With Daniella Luxembourg&Amalia Dayan from 2018-03-22T11:00

The gallerists Daniella Luxembourg and Amalia Dayan specialize in cutting-edge Contemporary art and overlooked 20th-century art. They have in common with AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman a passi...

The Art World: In Other Words, What’s On The Menu, With Daniella Luxembourg&Amalia Dayan from 2018-03-22T11:00

The gallerists Daniella Luxembourg and Amalia Dayan specialize in cutting-edge Contemporary art and overlooked 20th-century art. They have in common with AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman a passi...

#26: The Art of Criticism with Jerry Saltz from 2018-03-08T12:00

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, w...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Art of Criticism with Jerry Saltz from 2018-03-08T12:00

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, w...

#25: Dealing Art with Thaddaeus Ropac from 2018-02-22T12:00

From fetching beer for Joseph Beuys to the implications of Brexit and new borders, the Austrian art dealer Thaddaeus Ropac talks frankly about a range of topics in a conversation with our host C...

The Art World: In Other Words, Dealing Art with Thaddaeus Ropac from 2018-02-22T12:00

From fetching beer for Joseph Beuys to the implications of Brexit and new borders, the Austrian art dealer Thaddaeus Ropac talks frankly about a range of topics in a conversation with our host C...

#24: Norman Rosenthal on Seducing the Audience from 2018-02-08T12:00

During his 31 years as the exhibitions secretary at London’s Royal Academy, Sir Norman Rosenthal staged groundbreaking exhibitions of art including the legendary show, “A New Spirit in Painting”...

The Art World: In Other Words, Norman Rosenthal on Seducing the Audience from 2018-02-08T12:00

During his 31 years as the exhibitions secretary at London’s Royal Academy, Sir Norman Rosenthal staged groundbreaking exhibitions of art including the legendary show, “A New Spirit in Painting”...

#23: Infinity and Beyond with Artist Tavares Strachan from 2018-01-25T12:30

Whether hauling ice from the Arctic, partnering with SpaceX or training as a deep-sea diver, the artist Tavares Strachan works on an ambitious scale—often at the cutting edge of technology. He l...

The Art World: In Other Words, Infinity and Beyond with Artist Tavares Strachan from 2018-01-25T12:30

Whether hauling ice from the Arctic, partnering with SpaceX or training as a deep-sea diver, the artist Tavares Strachan works on an ambitious scale—often at the cutting edge of technology. He l...

#22: Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry from 2018-01-11T12:30

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry from 2018-01-11T12:30

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for ...

#21: Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew from 2017-12-14T12:00

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or...

The Art World: In Other Words, Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew from 2017-12-14T12:00

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or...

#20: Art and Desire with Walter Robinson from 2017-11-30T12:30

Artist Walter Robinson immortalizes appetites and desires in his work, painting beer, blue jeans and burgers, magazine models and pulpy paperback romances. Known as the founding editor of Artnet...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Desire with Walter Robinson from 2017-11-30T12:30

Artist Walter Robinson immortalizes appetites and desires in his work, painting beer, blue jeans and burgers, magazine models and pulpy paperback romances. Known as the founding editor of Artnet...

#19: Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman from 2017-11-16T12:00

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the Americ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman from 2017-11-16T12:00

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the Americ...

#18: The Suit and the Sweater from 2017-11-02T16:00

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Suit and the Sweater from 2017-11-02T16:00

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this...

#17: Gilbert&George from 2017-10-19T12:00

“The strength of two people together is enormous. That's why, all over the world, people and creatures are divided into two.” Artists Gilbert & George have been creating "Art for All" since they...

The Art World: In Other Words, with Gilbert&George from 2017-10-19T12:00

“The strength of two people together is enormous. That's why, all over the world, people and creatures are divided into two.” Artists Gilbert & George have been creating "Art for All" since they...

#16: Contemporary African Art from 2017-10-05T12:00

“Romare Bearden was asked in a 1972 interview with Camille Billops how he would define black art, and he said that black art is the art that black artists do,” says Tate's Zoe Whitley. "If someo...

The Art World: In Other Words, Contemporary African Art from 2017-10-05T12:00

“Romare Bearden was asked in a 1972 interview with Camille Billops how he would define black art, and he said that black art is the art that black artists do,” says Tate's Zoe Whitley. "If someo...

#15: Lust for Life—Collecting Art with Herbert Lust from 2017-09-21T12:00

A literature professor and Fulbright scholar turned investment banker, 90-year old Herbert Lust has one of the leading collections of works by artists including Alberto Giacometti, Robert Indian...

The Art World: In Other Words, Lust for Life—Collecting Art with Herbert Lust from 2017-09-21T12:00

A literature professor and Fulbright scholar turned investment banker, 90-year old Herbert Lust has one of the leading collections of works by artists including Alberto Giacometti, Robert Indian...

#14: New World Disorder with Tate’s Gregor Muir from 2017-09-07T12:00

"People really want to deal with the present, but it's just extremely difficult to get a grasp of where we are now," says Gregor Muir, Tate's Director of Collection, International Art.

Gr...

The Art World: In Other Words, New World Disorder with Tate’s Gregor Muir from 2017-09-07T12:00

"People really want to deal with the present, but it's just extremely difficult to get a grasp of where we are now," says Gregor Muir, Tate's Director of Collection, International Art.

Gr...

#13: Art Can Change the World, with Hans Ulrich Obrist from 2017-08-17T12:56:20

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himsel...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Can Change the World, with Hans Ulrich Obrist from 2017-08-17T12:56:20

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himsel...

#12: Reshaping Museums with Michael Govan from 2017-07-20T11:30

Michael Govan, the director and CEO of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, joins us for a special feature podcast from California. We talk about the future for Lacma—from the transformation of...

The Art World: In Other Words, Reshaping Museums with Michael Govan from 2017-07-20T11:30

Michael Govan, the director and CEO of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, joins us for a special feature podcast from California. We talk about the future for Lacma—from the transformation of...

#11: Changing Lanes, with Jeffrey Deitch and Lisa Dennison from 2017-06-29T12:00

Which is easier to navigate: the market or museums? Joining us to discuss this—and much more—are Jeffrey Deitch and Lisa Dennison. Jeffrey has worn many hats in the art world—gallerist, advisor,...

The Art World: In Other Words, Changing Lanes, with Jeffrey Deitch and Lisa Dennison from 2017-06-29T12:00

Which is easier to navigate: the market or museums? Joining us to discuss this—and much more—are Jeffrey Deitch and Lisa Dennison. Jeffrey has worn many hats in the art world—gallerist, advisor,...

#10: The Art Media from 2017-06-15T12:00

Joining our host Charlotte Burns for a discussion on the state of the art media are Jori Finkel, a regular contributor to the New York Times and the West Coast correspondent for The Art Newspape...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Art Media from 2017-06-15T12:00

Joining our host Charlotte Burns for a discussion on the state of the art media are Jori Finkel, a regular contributor to the New York Times and the West Coast correspondent for The Art Newspape...

#9: The Road Less Travelled with Joel Mesler from 2017-06-01T12:00

We're introducing a new feature for the ninth episode of "In Other Words", a one-on-one interview with a person who has taken an unusual approach to making their way in the art world— someone wh...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Road Less Travelled with Joel Mesler from 2017-06-01T12:00

We're introducing a new feature for the ninth episode of "In Other Words", a one-on-one interview with a person who has taken an unusual approach to making their way in the art world— someone wh...

#8: Being Radical with Robert Storr from 2017-05-16T12:00

The artist, critic, curator and former Dean of the Yale School of Art Robert Storr joins Amy Cappellazzo, AAP co-founder and Sotheby's Chairman of Global Fine Arts, and Charlotte Burns, senior e...

The Art World: In Other Words, Being Radical with Robert Storr from 2017-05-16T12:00

The artist, critic, curator and former Dean of the Yale School of Art Robert Storr joins Amy Cappellazzo, AAP co-founder and Sotheby's Chairman of Global Fine Arts, and Charlotte Burns, senior e...

#7: Artists' Legacies with Charles C Bergman, Chairman of the Pollock-Krasner Foundation from 2017-05-02T12:00

For the seventh episode of "In Other Words", we welcome a lion of the artist–endowed foundation world—Charles C. Bergman, the cha...

The Art World: In Other Words, Artists' Legacies with Charles C Bergman, Chairman of the Pollock-Krasner Foundation from 2017-05-02T12:00

For the seventh episode of "In Other Words", we welcome a lion of the artist–endowed foundation world—Charles C. Bergman, the cha...

#6: Hypercapitalization, with Gavin Brown and Allan Schwartzman from 2017-04-18T12:00

For the sixth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Gavin Brown, who founded his eponymous gallery Gavin Brown's enterprise in 1994. Together with Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Hypercapitalization, with Gavin Brown and Allan Schwartzman from 2017-04-18T12:00

For the sixth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Gavin Brown, who founded his eponymous gallery Gavin Brown's enterprise in 1994. Together with Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and ...

#5: Inequalities in the Art World, with Ian Alteveer and Naima Keith from 2017-04-04T12:00

For the fifth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Ian Alteveer, an associate curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art; Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman, Sotheby’s Fine ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Inequalities in the Art World, with Ian Alteveer and Naima Keith from 2017-04-04T12:00

For the fifth episode of "In Other Words", we welcome Ian Alteveer, an associate curator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art; Allan Schwartzman, the co-founder of AAP and chairman, Sotheby’s Fine ...

#4: Globalization and Its Discontents with Thomas Krens from 2017-03-21T13:00

For the fourth episode of “In Other Words”, we welcome Thomas Krens, the former director of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation, and Eric Shiner, senior vice president of Contemporary art at So...

The Art World: In Other Words, Globalization and Its Discontents with Thomas Krens from 2017-03-21T13:00

For the fourth episode of “In Other Words”, we welcome Thomas Krens, the former director of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation, and Eric Shiner, senior vice president of Contemporary art at So...

#3: Uncovering the Great Art of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras (Part 2) from 2017-03-07T15:30

In this third episode of "In Other Words," host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, welcomes artist David Salle, curator Alison Gingeras and Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Uncovering the Great Art of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras (Part 2) from 2017-03-07T15:30

In this third episode of "In Other Words," host Charlotte Burns, senior editor at AAP, welcomes artist David Salle, curator Alison Gingeras and Allan Schwartzman, co-founder of ...

#2: Uncovering the Great Artists of the 2000s with David Salle and Alison Gingeras from 2017-02-21T16:00