Ken Kwapis on ‘But What I Really Want to Do is Direct’ - a podcast by The Ringer & Larry Wilmore

Larry is joined by film director Ken Kwapis to talk about his new book ‘But What I Really Want to Do Is Direct: Lessons from a Life Behind the Camera’ along with plenty of advice for those interested in television and film making. Later, the two discuss what they think needs to be on television right now (62:00) as well as working on ‘The Office.’
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