#209. Being and Wickedness, Part 3: Gettin' It Twisted (Dive Bar) w/ Dr. Katherine Ramsland - a podcast by Lee Mellor

Part 3 of 3. Docs Lee and Ramsland open up the conversation and blow through Ian Brady, Gerard Schaefer, Ted Bundy, HH Holmes, Israel Keyes, Samuel Little, and Takahiro Shiraishi. They finish on the differences between criminology and psychology and the art of writing true crime and fiction.

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