Carl Hulse from the NY Times talks about the current state of Congress - a podcast by MWC

11/16/23: Joel Heitkamp is joined by Carl Hulse on "News and Views." Carl is the Chief Washington Correspondent at the New York Times and has been covering Washington since 1985. Joel and Carl talk about the new Speaker of the House, the behavior of certain members of Congress, the stopgap bill to keep the government open, and more. 

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