First hand perspective of Ukraine from Kari Odermann - a podcast by MWC

03/02/22 : Governor Ed Schafer fills in again for Joel, and is joined by Kari Odermann. Kari is originally from Belfield, ND and until recently, lived in Ukraine. Her husband is German and they took their two daughters back to Germany about 6 weeks ago and are now living there. She is a political communications expert and consultant, and joins Ed to talk about the Ukraine/Russia war. 

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