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Understanding the asylum system, and the benefits of 5000 steps.

Chief political correspondent Nick Eardley discusses the government’s latest immigration policy proposals and leading immigration barrister Colin Yeo explains how the legal system works for asylum seekers.

New research says that doing more than just 3967 steps a day can boost your health.

Stats legend Sir David Speigelhalter explains what the numbers mean, and best-selling author of The Salt Path, Raynor Winn, tells Adam how walking has changed her life.

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Today's Newscast was presented by Adam Fleming. It was made by Chris Flynn with Gemma Roper and Joe Wilkinson. The technical producer was Gareth Jones. The editor is Damon Rose.

01:40 - Understanding the asylum system
21:35 - The benefits of 5000 steps

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