Hard Conversations - a podcast by ESPN

Swagu and Perk discuss Zion Williamson's failure to reach out to CJ McCollum until it became public, how Luka Doncic has gotten back into shape, why a photograph from the weekend touched Perk, and why you have to put in the work to gain success. Let's get it!
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