FORTIES - a podcast by Jen Kirkman

Jen talks to you about that awkward moment when you meet someone again twenty years later and they are no longer a douche-magoo and so you don’t tell them, “We met, you were a douche magoo.” Jen talks about how people change for the better as they get older - and she talks to her friend, actor Michael McMillian about what they’ve learned recently about how to stay in a tough business, have faith, handle conflict differently, and why being in your twenties is hard af.
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