108 – Creativity V Depression ft Erik Johnson - a podcast by Brock Cook

DURING THIS PODCAST TOPICS SUCH AS SUICIDE, SELF HARM AND MENTAL ILLNESS ARE DISCUSSED. IF THIS IS A TRIGGER OR MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, LOOK AFTER YOURSELF AND DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO LISTEN. 







In episode 098 I put out an episode about my personal experience with depression. Not long after that Erik (you will remember him from episode 039) messaged me expressing how much he related to the episode. Erik explained that he was currently going through something similar and wanted to come on and have a conversation with me about it. Erik is by far one of my favourite OT's on the planet and his honestly and vulnerability in this conversation simply confirmed that for me.







This conversation was one of those ones that I can genuinely say wasn't an interview, it was just two mates catching up and having a deep and meaningful conversation. Thankyou Erik.







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Transcription







Brock Cook 0:00Hi, and welcome. My friend, Eric Johnson approached me or shoot me a message after I released the episode, where I explained about my journey with depression and said, Dude, I want to come back on the show. I'm having my own experience of pretty much what you described in that episode. And I don't want to have a chat about it. So here we are, I will tell you that there are definite trigger warnings during this conversation, we talk about suicide, we talk about depression, there is some mention of some traumatic incidences that Eric experienced while overseas in Afghanistan. So those things make you uncomfortable, then please don't feel like you have to listen. This is by far and away one of the most vulnerable and connected interviews I've ever had the pleasure of doing. And I got so much out of it. So I really hope that you can get equally as much out of it. So without further ado, let's roll the intro and get this episode going. Get a My name is Brock Cook, and welcome to occupied. In this podcast, we're aiming to put the occupation in occupational therapy, we explore the people, topics, theories and underpinnings that make this profession so incredible. If you're new here, you can find all of our previous episodes and resources at occupied podcast.com. But for now, let's roll the episode. How you been?







Erik Johnson 1:48You know, I'm okay. I've been in a pretty rough spot, you know, have? Probably, I mean, you know, no question, that pandemic has certainly put a damper on a lot of things in life and, you know, you get kind of starts to get in your head and you, you know, start thinking like, will this ever end, you know, and then you start thinking about all the other things that are negative in your life, and so it just kind of starts to fester. And, and so I'm kind of, you know, in this place where I just can't kind of dig out of a pole, you know, and so, I'm gonna, okay, you know, like, I actually told my boss the other day, just, I broke down to her just said, I'm not doing well, you know, and I started crying, just like, I know,

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