146 What You Need to Know about Boys&Suicide (w Katey McPherson) - a podcast by Janet Allison, Jennifer LW Fink

Young men are 4X more likely to die of suicide than young women

The suicide rate for boys ages 15 to 19 grew by 30 percent from 2007 to 2015

Suicide is now the second leading cause of death for ages 10-24

No one wants to think or talk about suicide, but as people who care deeply about the well-being of boys, we'd be remiss to stay silent. This episode is a tough, but vitally important, one.

Trigger warning: This episode includes frank conversations about suicide and includes non-graphic descriptions of the circumstances surrounding some suicides

Katey McPherson

Our guest, Katey McPherson, is a boy advocate, educator and consultant who turned her attention to suicide prevention after a slew of teenage boys in Arizona committed suicide.

"Just in my 20 mile radius, we've lost 32 boys in 20 months," says McPherson.

Most, she said, had experienced a "significant life crisis" in the weeks previous such as a breakup, academic or athletic failure or altercation with the law.  To many adults, these incidents may seem relatively minor. But in the life of tween or teen, these are major events.

"The reality is, some of these children have never failed. And so when they have a failure, it is epic," McPherson explains. Social networking can further amplify kids' feeling of failure, as news of kids' achievements and failures quickly spread.

Unfortunately, adults sometimes unwittingly make things worse by taking away their child's phone or keeping their child apart from friends. Teens rely on one another for social support, and use their phones to connect. Without their phones and friends, they feel alone and isolated. Trapped in their thoughts, it's all too easy to move from depression to suicidal ideation to suicide.

Teenage boys' brains are immature. They don't process the world the same way we do. They're impulsive. We have to remember those facts when interacting with our teen boys. We have to listen, learn and love.

Above all, pay attention to your gut instincts. "If your mom or dad radar is going off, there's something wrong," McPherson says. "Don't dismiss your mom or dad radar. That's where we go wrong."  Don't dismiss your concerns; act instead.

If you or someone you know is struggling with depression, there are resources for you by calling the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or visiting suicidepreventionlifeline.org.


In this episode, Jen, Janet & Katey discuss:

Parenting strategies that can decrease the risk of suicide and build resiliency
The importance of discussing socio-emotional wellness
Why it's CRUCIAL to discuss suicide, depression and mental health with your boys
Why asking about suicide WILL NOT trigger suicide -- but may save a life
How to tell the difference between teenage angst & depression
Red flags, including disrupted sleep patterns and changes in behavior, hygiene, nonverbal communication and device usage
Why you should be on alert after breakups, academic and athletic failures
How a growth mindset can build coping skills and resilience
How kids signal their despair on social media
The importance of family media rules and a central charging station
How to help your kids recognize -- and respond to -- friends' cries for help
The importance of the village -- why parents must work together to keep kids safe
What to do if your son is suicidal (Go immediately to a hospital with an adolescent behavioral center, or call 911)

Comments shared with us after podcast went live:
"Janet and Jennifer -
I listen to your podcast every week in the car on the way to or from work and I am a big fan. Last Thursday, I called in sick to work, so didn't get to listen to this incredible episode. Hours later, my own teen boy was moving from ideation toward taking his own life, and we were alerted thanks to a friend who preferred to reach out for help for him rather than to "keep his trust" as a confidant.

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