2 former U.S. officials on America's next steps in the Russia-Ukraine war - a podcast by WBUR & NPR

Alexander Vindman and Lawrence Wilkerson have unique histories that have brought them to two different views on what the U.S. and Europe must do as Russia continues its attack on Ukraine. We hear from them both. Ret. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and Ret. Col. Larry Wilkerson join Meghna Chakrabarti.

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