'Stay Above It': Ex-Defense Secretary Hagel's Call To Protect The Nation - a podcast by WBUR & NPR

As President Trump continues his efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, Hagel joins On Point senior editor Dorey Scheimer for an extended conversation on the presidency, military and how to strengthen American democracy.

"You cannot allow yourself to be degraded in any way by partisanship and politics," Hagel says, speaking directly to military members. "You’ve got to stay above it all. Because you’re better than that."

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