Tea master Michael Ortiz on competitive brewing, Kobe, tea culture, and adventures in New York - a podcast by DADEMAG.com

In the days before Pan Con Podcast, Mike Beltran was the second Mike on another show called Tea Time! with Mike and Mike. In this episode of this podcast, that other podcast's founding Mike, Mike Ortiz, joins this podcasts's host, Mike Beltran, for a conversation between the two Mikes from Mike & Mike, except this time one Mike is just visiting the other Mike to hang out and drink tea.

It's all very confusing, but still a worthwhile listen. The two talk about Mike Ortiz's passion for tea and tea culture, how he developed his palate, the impact he hopes to have in bringing tea to more Americans, and the baller move he pulled at a major tea competition.

They also talk politics, sports, music, travel and other stuff.

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