Episode 20 – Pat Means - a podcast by Phi Phenonenon

Season one finale. Pat Means rules Hollywood with a tyrannical iron fist. J/K, she’s my mom. On today’s personal episode, we find out if I really am named after a movie, seeing Franco Zeffirelli’s Romeo and Juliet twice (twice!) in a theater, being a casual movie fan while raising a film fanatic, her contributions to the development of the sitcom Roseanne, what movies scared me as a child to the point of tears, and if she really was worried about me financially going into the arts when she knew no one else who had done so. Means is currently promoting social distancing at an anonymous location in Indiana.

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